Lionmaster/Legacy 2.0 lash up options

your could use a cab1 or better a cab1l to rum them they are cheaper than legacy , much easier to use

The Legacy system really isn't that complex, especially compared to most DCC control systems if you are familiar with HO. It's like comparing Apple to Windows (Legacy vs. DCC). The Legacy system allows you to pick the lead unit and then the headlight comes on for that unit when going forward. The tail lights then come on the trailing unit when in reverse. You also pick the orientation of the units (front to back) and which units can emit sound (both is an option). Its very intuitive and once you set up the lashup you never have to do it again so no problem with the kids running it whenever they want.

I’m a firm supporter of LEGACY I know the Cab-2 looks intimidating but it’s really not bad when you get the hang of it. Like mentioned before you could also get a Cab1L system with I think might fit your needs better. It’s cheeper and if you ever want to go full Legacy the Cab-1L will talk directly to the Legacy base. I think the basics of command control have already been covered. It should work like a charm and to hook up the base only 1 wire to the outside rail and your done!

Mike, I think the gentlemen above summed it up pretty well. But I want to offer perspective from someone who wasted money upgrading through the systems over the years. We started with conventional trains many years ago... and then we upgraded into CAB1 control and lionmaster TMCC engines. (LC2.0 is the modern equivalent.) Then as our interest grew we moved onto the Legacy control system. We were addicted. There is just nothing like a Lionel Legacy engine. Properly lubricated and on clean track Legacy engines just run so buttery smooth and sound incredible. I once said the same thing you did, that I only need 1 pair of engines for a lashup. I was quite wrong! lol As I type this, I have 4 Legacy EMDs pulling 41cars. 3 engines at the front, 1 at the back. The sound as the front engines pass by is just incredible. I almost never run diesels alone anymore.

Anyway we sold the CAB1 system and almost all of the TMCC equipment years ago. Moral of the story is we paid to get into each tier of the hobby and then upgraded out of it. It would have been more cost effective to go straight to Legacy. Now all that being said... I can't say big Legacy trains are very kid compatible. If I was you... I'd go for the Legacy for yourself and keep the LC trains around for the grandkids.

I want to thank everyone for their responses and suggestions.   Now comes decisions decisions on how to proceed which most likely involves getting a new Legacy control system.    Since I run in multiple rooms and outside in the summer I'll have to consider the range and if any extensions are needed.  I know about adding a high gain antenna and remember a blurb somewhere about using WiFi.    Again thanks to everyone for the assistance.

Figured I would ask in an older post.....

I know with a Legacy train you do not get all the features using the BT app but I assume you do with the LC+ 2.0 trains besides the lash ups? I am under the impression the LC+ line of trains was designed for BT operation so they do not have quilable whistles and some other things the app does not operate. Am I correct?

Thanks

Brad

@B rad posted:

Figured I would ask in an older post.....

I know with a Legacy train you do not get all the features using the BT app but I assume you do with the LC+ 2.0 trains besides the lash ups? I am under the impression the LC+ line of trains was designed for BT operation so they do not have quilable whistles and some other things the app does not operate. Am I correct?

Thanks

Brad

Yes and No.

LC+ was intended with the UR (Universal Remote) and the app in mind. The 2.0 now brings in TMCC, witch as you stated allows MUs. I think you get a much finer speed control with a Cab-1L or Cab-2 set in R100 mode than with the UR or the app. Also on the UR or app you only get one button for sounds. No choice as to what comes out. With TMCC you can hit 2 or 7 and get different dialogues. Of course it changes wether it’s stopped or moving but further more it’ll be different yet if you hit AUX1 before 2/7. Don’t get my wrong the App and UR are a great place to start and keep things simple but you can always get more out of the product.

Just my 2¢ Everyone is free to there own opinions