LIRR has been around longer than....

Apples55 posted:

RSJB18 posted:

Todds Architectural Models posted:

I don't know, but my grandmother used to take me with a bowl of popcorn to the Valley Stream station to wave at the engineers in the mid 1960's. Then we would go to what I recall as the Borden's bottling plant.

https://forgotten-ny.com/2006/...dairies-around-town/

Wow Bob... thanks for that link. When I was a kid we had Renken’s milk delivered in glass bottles. We had a metal insulated box on the front stoop (yes... in Brooklyn, it was a stoop!!!). Can you imagine anyone today using milk that was left in an unlocked box on your stoop???

When and if, Lionel ever gets its' Milk Car tooling issues resolved, a Renken's Milk Car would be a nice one to have.

Apples55 posted:

RSJB18 posted:

Todds Architectural Models posted:

I don't know, but my grandmother used to take me with a bowl of popcorn to the Valley Stream station to wave at the engineers in the mid 1960's. Then we would go to what I recall as the Borden's bottling plant.

https://forgotten-ny.com/2006/...dairies-around-town/

Wow Bob... thanks for that link. When I was a kid we had Renken’s milk delivered in glass bottles. We had a metal insulated box on the front stoop (yes... in Brooklyn, it was a stoop!!!). Can you imagine anyone today using milk that was left in an unlocked box on your stoop???

Some of my neighbors still had milk delivered to the "stoop" when I was a kid. I had a NY Daily news route so I was out with the milk man every day. We went to Dairy Barn for ours.

Bob

MELGAR posted:

Does anyone have any photographic evidence of locomotive #624 having run on the LIRR? This is a K-Line model - I believe of an EMD F10. An engine with the same paint scheme, #413, ran on the Metro-North New Haven Division.

MELGAR

     619-622  PC-7EMD      http://www.trainweb.org/willstrainart/Long_Island.htm

     I could find a #624 any where I looked...  just #619-almost a #623

                  http://www.trainsarefun.com/li...dieselroster2009.htm   

Nice link about the dairies Bob! We used to have our metal box on the front porch, and every morning there would magically be milk in it! 

Andy 

More milk car info: http://www.trainsarefun.com/li.../LIRR3000MilkCar.pdf

NYandW posted:

More milk car info: http://www.trainsarefun.com/li.../LIRR3000MilkCar.pdf

 

As I already stated, when Lionel gets its' Milk Car production up & running again, RENKEN'S.

Steve, I’ve always enjoyed that story, thanks.

Andy

Steve

Thanks for that info on the LiRR milk car 3000. I'd seen that photo of the car and always wondered about it.

Great story Bob.

Andy

Adding to Bob’s post about freight operations, here is a link from Steve Lynch’s site: http://www.trainsarefun.com/NYA/nyafreight.htm

Andy

I mentioned Latham Lumber on the first page of this thread. Here are some pictures I took a few years ago. It’s a great old structure that still stands today. In the third picture, you can still see the tracks that came off of the Oyster Bay Branch. I know it’s ambitious, but I plan to try and scratch build this structure.

Andy

Old PENN STATION LIRR FLIP SIGN

If there is an electrical guy out there who knows how to make this motor flip the signs, I would appreciate it.

Need a schematic.

Very cool Steve!

Andy

Andy,

Is Latham Lumber now a Riverhead Building Supply ?

Great photos of Latham Andy. Shows how Home Depot has taken the fun out of lumber shopping. I can still remember going to the lumber yard with my Dad as a kid. They had a huge radial arm saw that always scared the you-know-what out of me when I was little.

Riverhead Lumber on Roslyn Rd. has a similar lumber shed off the back of the building too.

SIRT- where did you get those old flip signs? It was like playing a slots in Atlantic City waiting to see what town came up when they stopped flipping. I'm sure there's a few retired LIRR electricians out there who know all the details on those signs.

Bob

Steamfan77 posted:

To all,

I asked Steve Lynch from the Trainsarefun website about the “Longhorns “ pictured above, and here was the reply:

 

 M3 ex-9775 converted to  #E775 alcohol/sandite car 2018. Photo/Archive: Jeff Erlitz

 

 

Until I read the caption, I thought this must be the latest iteration of the "Creedmore Creeper"!

What is the "Creedmore Creeper " ?

CHOO-CHOO MIKE posted:

What is the "Creedmore Creeper " ?

It was the name given to the passenger trains to Creedmore Psychiatric Hospital by LIRR employees.  The name "Creeper" referred to the speed the trains traveled down the branch but may have had other, less politically correct implications, as well.  The histories of the branch and hospital are quite interesting:

https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Creedmoor_Branch

http://www.trainsarefun.com/li...edmoor/creedmoor.htm

Had some spare time over the weekend and I was able to put together a video of my LIRR trains in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oWew5TtpVY&t=2s

  Thanks for the links Holmes !  In the 60,s us kids would sleigh ride down from the old siding on 249th st. in Queens.  Had to walk or ride over the" big hill " to get to school. You knew you were a big kid when you could ride over the hill on your bike without stopping. Later we would hangout in what was know as pigeon town. The tunnel under the Cross Island Parkway.

Arthur posted:

Andy,

Is Latham Lumber now a Riverhead Building Supply ?

Arthur, yes, it changed over some years ago.

Andy

RSJB18 posted:

Great photos of Latham Andy. Shows how Home Depot has taken the fun out of lumber shopping. I can still remember going to the lumber yard with my Dad as a kid. They had a huge radial arm saw that always scared the you-know-what out of me when I was little.

Riverhead Lumber on Roslyn Rd. has a similar lumber shed off the back of the building too.

SIRT- where did you get those old flip signs? It was like playing a slots in Atlantic City waiting to see what town came up when they stopped flipping. I'm sure there's a few retired LIRR electricians out there who know all the details on those signs.

Bob

Bob, 

I was afraid of that saw too. Riverhead Building Supply took over Latham Lumber on Roslyn Rd. Thankfully places like this still exist.

Andy

Rapid Transit Holmes posted:

CHOO-CHOO MIKE posted:

What is the "Creedmore Creeper " ?

It was the name given to the passenger trains to Creedmore Psychiatric Hospital by LIRR employees.  The name "Creeper" referred to the speed the trains traveled down the branch but may have had other, less politically correct implications, as well.  The histories of the branch and hospital are quite interesting:

https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Creedmoor_Branch

http://www.trainsarefun.com/li...edmoor/creedmoor.htm

Wow, RTH, I haven't heard "Creedmoor in almost 60 years'...When I was a kid, if my friends and me, did something stupid... we would hear' Keep it up, and you'll wind up in "Creedmoor"........(LOL)  

Bob, 

Great picture of the Fair Grounds.

Andy 

I paid a visit to the Mineola Historical Society a while back. I looked through some amazing albums, and was able to take a few pictures. This is a nice shot of Swift & Company. This is a spur off of the main line just east of Roslyn Rd. 

Andy

Nice! What year is this photo? Any others like this?  Note: Sunrise Coal Co.- Ex-Burns-Bros. in the view east, back right of photo.

Sorry Steve, no date indicated on the back of the photo or with any other documentation. It’s the only picture of this building that I’ve seen. Thanks for the info on the silos in the background. Any other info on Swift & Co.?

Andy

First photo I have ever seen. Nice. Now as to the freight received... Once again it comes down to CR4s, waybills, etc. of which I find none. ☹ Based on the freight dock it wasn't refrigerated meat products, thus I'll go with other non-refrig commodities as follows:  Wiki: In addition to meatpacking, Swift sold various dairy and grocery items, including Swiftning shortening, Allsweet margarine, Brookfield butter, cheese under the Brookfield, Pauly, and Treasure Cave brands, and Peter Pan peanut butter. Swift began selling frozen turkeys under the Butterball brand in 1954. Gustavus Swift also championed the refrigerated railroad car.  I sure would like to know the lading it received!

I think this picture also came from the Mineola Historical Society. The quality isn’t so hot, but it’s the only picture I’ve seen of Wilson & Co., in Mineola. I’d be thrilled if someone else has a better shot. The Oyster Bay Branch is in the foreground, just after it comes off the main. 

Andy

Thanks for the map Steve! 

Andy

Thanks Bob. That was impressive! Thanks for the links too. 

Andy

A few more photos on the 3rd Track Project: 3rd track Project  I'm waiting for my contact to send the photos of the "roll-in". Will post when available. Bookmark the page as it grows! Please add as you see fit. Thank you.

The most familiar bridge for me was the one over Post Avenue in Westbury. I guess it will be replaced during the 3rd Track Project.

MELGAR

Final LIRR Design Builders bid: Existing/Final Alignment Third Track Project MTA

Westbury: School St. and Urban Ave are grade crossing eliminations.  http://www.trainsarefun.com/li.../3rdTrackProject.htm :-)

Wish MTH or Lionel would do a set of P54 Ping Pong cars.

MELGAR posted:

The most familiar bridge for me was the one over Post Avenue in Westbury. I guess it will be replaced during the 3rd Track Project.

MELGAR

Mel- the video I posted was the Post Ave bridge getting replaced last year. When they did the job they put up the third span as part of the new structure.

Bob

RSJB18 posted:

MELGAR posted:

The most familiar bridge for me was the one over Post Avenue in Westbury. I guess it will be replaced during the 3rd Track Project.

MELGAR

Mel- the video I posted was the Post Ave bridge getting replaced last year. When they did the job they put up the third span as part of the new structure.

Bob

Thanks Bob. I hadn't noticed the link. Whatever anyone says about the MTA or LIRR, they are very capable organizations. My family lived near the Westbury Station when I was a youngster. My father bought Oldsmobiles from Mack Markowitz on Post Avenue, a block or two north of the bridge. Picture below shows an LIRR calendar opened to the month of March 2000 with a photo of G5s 39 on the Post Avenue bridge (photo date March 26, 1954). The calendar has hung on the wall of my train room opened to this photo for 19 years. A reminder of my youth on Long Island.

Another reminder is my MTH model of LIRR G5s 21 which has been on my layout almost as long as the calendar.

MELGAR

Thanks for the links Steve. I’m with you Art, I wouldn’t mind seeing them either. Mel, thanks for the history, the calendar, and #21.

Andy

When I located my grandfather's draft application in July 1918 on Ancestry .com   ..it read, OCCUPATION.....Railroad Man..LIRR. 

rat

Courtesy of the Mineola Historical Society, this is the Mineola station in September 1923. 

Andy