Lobster pots - O scale

Max,

You are right. How hard can they be. Just get a picture and some dimensions and make them out of styrene strips and rounds and maybe some fiberglass screen. I think with your ability you can handle it without any problems.

Alan Graziano

Max, when you say lobster "pots", are you referring to traps, as in those used to catch lobsters?  I've heard some folks up here in New England use "pot" to refer to what I would describe as a trap.

If you're looking for traps, there are several available.  Google "O-scale lobster traps", and you should see offerings from Scenic Express, Model Tech Studios and Bar Mills.

Frenchman River sells the traps, the boxes, and even the lobsters in O scale.

Thanks.  I'm off to bed now, but I'll have a look in the morning.

I've been working with 0.5 mm brass rod, soldering it together.  The penny has just dropped - I need to anneal it.

Another thing to try tomorrow . . .

CNJ #1601 posted:

Max, when you say lobster "pots", are you referring to traps, as in those used to catch lobsters?  I've heard some folks up here in New England use "pot" to refer to what I would describe as a trap.

If you're looking for traps, there are several available.  Google "O-scale lobster traps", and you should see offerings from Scenic Express, Model Tech Studios and Bar Mills.

Joe:

Thanks to you and MWB for this list of sources.  

I would have searched on "Lobster Pots" and would have been mystified when I came up with zero hits.  I have lived within 5-10 miles of the Atlantic Ocean my entire life and it never would have occurred to me to call a "lobster pot" a "lobster trap".

These kits must have been built by crabbers...  

Steven J. Serenska

Serenska posted:

CNJ #1601 posted:

Max, when you say lobster "pots", are you referring to traps, as in those used to catch lobsters?  I've heard some folks up here in New England use "pot" to refer to what I would describe as a trap.

If you're looking for traps, there are several available.  Google "O-scale lobster traps", and you should see offerings from Scenic Express, Model Tech Studios and Bar Mills.

Joe:

Thanks to you and MWB for this list of sources.  

I would have searched on "Lobster Pots" and would have been mystified when I came up with zero hits.  I have lived within 5-10 miles of the Atlantic Ocean my entire life and it never would have occurred to me to call a "lobster pot" a "lobster trap".

These kits must have been built by crabbers...  

Steven J. Serenska

Ha!!   Leave it to a landlubber like me from Pennsylvania to be living up here in MA for over 20 years and still not know the local lingo!

Glad I could help!

How about these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/4...ps&ul_noapp=true

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/3...ps&ul_noapp=true

https://www.barmillsmodels.com...ted=1&Itemid=999

Aha!  I'm beginning to see the problem.

What I'm looking for are lobster/crayfish pots - not traps.  The traps are like dog kennels, while the pots are spherical.

I had, of course Googled the pots and came up empty in terms of ready made items - only dog kennels; so I decided as usual that I've got to make my own.

I've made a start in 0.5 mm brass rod, but it's such diabolical stuff to work with - out of the pack.  Then, as I said, it dawned on me (afterwards), that it should be annealed. 

Overnight (instead of sleeping), I thought that I may as well just use copper wire.  It's soft, and it solders easily.

So today I'll have a crack at the copper wire - unless someone knows of a manufacturer who makes O scale pots.

Thanks for everyone's interest. 

Bar Mills

Gene Anstine

Like Gene said, Bar Mills.

https://www.barmillsmodels.com...ted=1&Itemid=999

Nope.  Only lobster traps.

"Aw, gimme a break, mate!"...

I think we're getting hung up on nomenclature.  This article -- http://safinacenter.org/2016/0...traps-the-ensnarers/ -- implies that the terms Lobster Trap and Lobster Pot are interchangeable.  The article even refers to "a rectangular pot".

I had never heard the term "Lobster Trap" used until this thread.  That doesn't mean the term is incorrect, it's just never been used where I've lived.  Likewise, a Lobster Pot can refer to something that's round, but I've never seen one, and I've never heard a lobsterman say, "That's not a pot, it's a trap" or vice versa.   (I do indeed know a few lobstermen.)  Again, that doesn't mean cylindrical or round Lobster Pots don't exist.

Here is more evidence that the terms are interchangeable: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/lobster-pot

Still more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobster_trap

I think what Max is looking for is a round Lobster Pot or a round Lobster trap.

I'm just happy for the thread because I think a stack of pots/traps next to a shack with some colorful buoys would make a nice waterside scene.  It probably wouldn't have otherwise occurred to me to model one.

Steven J. Serenska

How to make a Lobster Pot / Full Scale / Just scale this down / Good Luck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJjhWLmnzgI

Hope this helps.  -  Gary

Thanks, Steven.

I'll do a mini tutorial on how to make O scale spherical lobster/cray pots, when I get them done.

I'm making them from copper wire.  I'll take some 'photos when I'm finished.

Thanks, Gary.  But I want spherical ones.

Cheers

Dang, we sure are a lot O help, huh Max?  Here's another source. 3D print I think. Only problem?  UK    lobster pot. TW

Go to BA HA BA, Maine and see all the Lobsta POTS ya want.  The Lobsta taste good too.  WIFE and I go every Summa.

I think Ted W has a winner.  I would be surprised if the proprietor was unwilling to ship them to you in the US.  It's only a few ounces of resin, so the shipping likely won't be that bad.

SJS

If you search Amazon for "lobster pots" you get things like this:

Just sayin'....

The beehives are close, Ted.

Only trouble - I'm geo-blocked from ordering. 

Thanks, anyway.

What's up with that?  Wonder why?  Oh well, with your skill, you'll be catching your meals in no time. Look forward to seeing the catch. TW

This classic Lobster Story, is only 30 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDLm08StCwQ

Gary: Just for the fun of it.............

Wait.  So you are looking for those things from Shapeways?  Those look to be crayfish pots and they're a "hole" lot different (get it) since a crayfish is about 1/4 of the size of a lobster.  The one's you are calling dog kennels are what is seen along the coast.  The crayfish pots are mainly seen in the south in the swamps and bayous.  The holes are sized so the little buggers can escape but the legals can't.  I have also seen where they are now using square traps like a crab trap.

Gene Anstine

MaxSouthOz posted:

The beehives are close, Ted.

Only trouble - I'm geo-blocked from ordering. 

Thanks, anyway.

Actually, we're all blocked, geo- and otherwise.  I was interested in another item he sells and I encountered this message on the home page:

PLEASE NOTE

AS OF TODAY I AM UNABLE TO SUPPLY MY KITS AS I AM GOING INTO HOSPITAL FOR A KNEE REPLACEMENT

I WILL BE OUT OF ACTION FOR 10 WEEKS

Unfortunately, he didn't mention when the 10-week period begins...does anyone know?

Thanks.

Steven J. Serenska

I've had a couple of abortive attempts to photograph my pot frames.  But in the meantime, I searched South Australian cray pots and came up with . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgbmPpj8TtM

which shows that my ageing memory is way off.

Ours are much more cylindrical than I remembered them. 

My spherical frames are going to be difficult to clad with the mesh, so I think that I'll abandon them and try some tubular ones.  Back later . . .

Here's the shot I was trying to get . . .

The one on the left is brass wire.  The other two are copper.  Hopeless!

I'll make some cylinders later.

Max, I'd use em in a heartbeat.  Then again, I was a C- Student also.   So... your standards are quite a bit higher thankfully. The middle one with a few more wires around the circumference would look fine. Man, lots of work!  Let em soak a little before bringing them back up. TW

Thanks, Ted.

How a bout Model Tech Studios for Lobster stuff?

http://modeltechstudios.com/os...sfinished-1-1-1.aspx

Hi Bill

The idea is that there should be a old marine gear collected around the boat builder's yard. 

I thought perhaps a pile of old nets, some drums, some ropes and a few cray pots would be good.

Max, those pots look quite a bit different than the ones we see here in the States, either on the east coast or in the in the south. I know that the terminology in the Keys is "traps", both lobster and crab......and better not be messing with none other than your own!!!!!!

Rick

Ranger Rick posted:

......and better not be messing with none other than your own!!!!!!

 

Same here.  The penalty for crayfish rustling here, is 50 lashes on your private parts with a frilled neck lizard. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlamydosaurus

I've had a bit of a breakthrough.  Ted's excellent suggestion has borne some fruit.  

I sent an email to Andy Duncan at Duncan Models.  It seems that the site is not enabled for cart sales.  He's doing everything by email order.  Also, it sounds like his surgery was successful and he's back doing business again.

He's going to send me a PayPal invoice for some of his beehive units, so I'm going to abandon my scratch building. 

Postage from the UK takes 10 to 14 days, so I'm hopeful of having them by the end of the month. 

Thanks all for your interest.

Andy's pots have finally arrived from the UK.

They are 3D printed in two pieces.  I've painted them with grey etch primer and then a few black washes.

The green and brown are weathering powder.

They look great, along with the other "junk" or is it "junque"?

Gene Anstine

I am very happy for you. Any modeler has that one item they badly want, and goes on a quest to find (or make) the best representation they can find for it.

Thanks, Guys.

I couldn't have done it without input from here.

Junque, flotsam and/or jetsam, Gene.