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Mine arrived yesterday but it was this morning before I opened it up to look.  

 

I have photos below to show my points, but quickly summarizing, this is a very mixed review, and perhaps the least positive I get about something - but overall it has a simplar number of good and bad points as I see it . . . 

 

The good:

  1. Its big and heavy.
  2. It's detailed enough and interesting enough in shape that, being big, if put back in the layout if still has presence, and it can looks good.
  3. The faded advertising signs - a big point in Menards advertising for this product - are very well done and a really great, nostalgic touch.
  4. The truck is cool, good looking with a nice load in its stakebed area.
  5. The box says it comes with two figures and a dog.  Menards advertising says four figures and a dog.  It came with four figures and a dog, all individually packaged in tiny plastic bags.  The figures are so-so - about Lionel figure quality.  But the dog is seriously cool, nicely rendered with its tongue hanging out.  
  6. I did not try but it looks like four simple screws and the building will lift off the base - which has to go - Ugh (pics later)

 

The bad

  1. It is much less detailed and finished (there is very little cast-in surface detail of shingles and siding, etc., and ham-handed unrealitic "weathering" or splatter) than Woodland Scenics or well-completed Ameri-Town kits.  In my opinion it will suffer badly - look out of place and not quite good enough - alongside them if close to the layout edge where one can see all the intricate detail in the surfaces of the WS and A-T kits, and that it is not there on the Menards building.
  2. It may be heavy but it is a bit fragile.  Mine arrived with one pipe knocked off and another bent.  Handling it, it weighs enough that I am careful to pick it up only by the full base.  
  3. It is heavy (14 pounds) that it can't go where I intended it to: on a flattopped hillside I made out of cardboard covered with paper and plaster.  I think it would crush it.  I had expected it to weight about what a WS building like Morrison's doors weighs but it must be, literally at least ten times that.
  4. I could not get the lights to work on the building of the truck.  I put batteries in  he battery case (photo below) and connected the Menards 4.5 volt power supply to the jack on the back side of the building, but nothing happened.  If there is a switch I cannot find it.  If there were instructions in the box, ten minutes of careful seraching failed to find it.  The trucks lights do work: after I took it off the base (see below) I connected it directly to 4.5 v and its headlights work.  
  5. Assembly quality was not great.  While the broken and loose pipes may have been done during shipment,
  • the truck chassis was significantly bent (photo below) because whoever assembled it tightened the two screws holding the truck to the base to the point that they pulled the truck chassis down toward the base until it bowed downward by 1/4 inch.  
  • One of the signs on the building is painted on upside down!   The one on the front, unfortunately.
  • And the "weathering"- Ugh - Just someone taking a semi-dry brush and dabbing/dobbing it all over everything, etc., quickly, without any eye for detail or realism.

 

 Anyway, it arrived in a big, heavy box . . . 16 pounds.

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Inside was another big box . . . 

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Packed between molded Styrofoam, etc, was a big building.  Impressively sized, and very heavy, and five little plastic bags with people and a dog.  No instructions I could find.

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The pipe closer the camera was broken off.  I put it back on but it leans  . . . the one on the other side is loose at one end.

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I really like the faded painted advertising signs - by far is best features.

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I put three batteries in this battery holder.  There were no instructions to tell me why, but I figured it would not be there if there weren't supposed to be batteries in it . . . No lights or anything came on. . . 

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I connected the 4.5 volt power supply to the point point (small, round black circle in the right lower foundation below), still no lights (the building is supposed to have two lights and a red blinking warning light on top.)  If there is a switch to turn the lights on I could not find it.  I tried turning things like the chimney, etc., thinking maybe the switch is hidden, but nothing seemed to be a switch . . . 

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When you get close - within two or three feet, the details show up - or rather don't because they aren't there.  It looks good in the photos above 'cause that viewwhat you'd see if it were away from the edge of the layout, but up close as below, the "weathering" looks poorly done in comparison to Woodland Scenics built ups or Ameri-towne kits I complete, etc. . . 

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The truck is really good, though, and the load in back nicely detailed.   But note the paint and "weathering" on the driveway it is parked on.  Concrete?  Asphalt?  Dirt?  More like counter top.  Elsewhere, the "grass" see photo above, looks like flocking, because it is: good from four to five feet away, bad from two feet.

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The four figures are good enough: not Woodland Scenics or Preisser detail maybe, but good enough you have to get within a few inches to see . . And the dog . . . .  is just the best dog I have, period.  I tried to take a picture of that wonderful look on its face and its tongue hanging out, but my camera did not cooperate.

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I took this photo to show the bent truck frame, and the screws that caused it.  But I didn't even notice the reversed, upside down sign on the building until just now, as I was writing this.  Hmmm ? I checked Menards' ad on its website just now, to see if maybe they did this deliberately, but no, their ad shows it right side up.   Could it be the assembly workers don't speak or read English?  Actually, its rather endearing, but . . . 

 

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The truck would not straighten out at first.  Here was the best I did before a final go at really manhandling it.  I bent it back eventually, by about 20 degrees, to the point I  worried I would snap the chassis, and when I released it it was a bit straight than this photo . . . 

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As you can see here its pretty straight now.  And when I connected it up to 4.5 volts, the headlights work find.  

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In summary: this building needs a lot of repainting/re-weathering and work to make it fit on my layou, and is so heavy I will have to reinforce the hilltop where it will go first.  Repainting will be a challenge because I want to preserve the painted signs, including the upside down one in the photo above . . . and that will require time.  But I will get it to.

 

Still, I doubt I will buy any more Menards buildings.  

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Originally Posted by Ron045:

Thanks for the detailed review Lee.  As far as your upside down sign...  Is that entire wall just mounted upside down?  Is it an easy disassemble / reassemble or is in all glued in place?

 

Ron

 

Actually, you may be right.  When I study it closely, it looks like the sign is painted correctly, but the panel installed upside down (note the sign is painted so that, right side up, it would be higher/more visible, which makes sense).  When I take the building off the base, I will try to just switch the wall around.

 

Thank you, great idea.

Lee, thank you for your fair review. Menards will have to do better than this if they want our business. Hopefully, they can turn the ship around. Quality control was lacking on the production of your building. Since they are just getting started into the "O" Gauge business they better find someone to correct this stuff before it hits the street. I believe they can do it, but they better start now.

Yes, the clapboard looks right, as though the wall was printed incorrectly and they

slapped it on the bldg. anyway (laissaiz-faire quality control).  No problem for me,

for I would paint over any mfr. (Lionel, etc.) self promotion, and would "have" to kit

bash the elevator larger and wider.  Really thorough in-depth review.  I guess buyers

should look at this as a semi-kit, and not something you can turn the box upside down

with and drop on your layout.  Be prepared to paint and detail.

Thanks Lee for the review.......

Some may view it as negative but I like it more now than before.....because of your accurate info. IF I bought it.....it was going to be redone anyway because my goal is to have ZERO structures that are 'out of the box' look.  And since I'd remove the base and the truck being too new, I'd be making mods.  If anyone doesn't like theirs......

Criticism is never bad if it is justified.  It helps to improve product.

 

I appreciate the pictures, I think I'm going to go ahead with my purchase.  These days $99.99 is cheap for such a building, even if you need to give it a little TLC.  Aged signs are easily Photoshopped and the Menards signs wouldn't work for me anyway.  

 

I think it will be a great start for an industry I have planned, and it will save me time (which is more precious than money at my age).

 

Thanks Lee, your photos really helped.

Originally Posted by Lee Willis:

Mine arrived yesterday but it was this morning before I opened it up to look.  

 

I have photos below to show my points, but quickly summarizing, this is a very mixed review, and perhaps the least positive I get about something - but overall it has a simplar number of good and bad points as I see it . . . 

Lee,

 

We are very sorry that you received a building with an upside down sign. I believe that this was an assembly issue and we apologize.

 

If you wouldn't mind sending your full name, address and telephone number to Ray customerservice@menardsoc.com, we will gladly send you a new building, free of charge. This new building has been taken out of its box, tested and inspected for upside down signs, etc. and everything looks good. We will see how the gods of transportation see fit to treat it on its journey to you.

 

The wiring inside the building is a bit of a science project but you are welcome to take the old building apart and kit bash it in anyway you like. Please send us your critique and enjoy!

 

The light switch you are looking for is on the truck side of the building. It is colored an "inscrutable" white to make sure that nobody sees it.  Push the button and the building should light up. Let us know, please, if it does not.

 

All the best,

Mark

LEE I had to take my Menards Feed & seed out again to check my signs. All is good on that Issue. I will also look for the switch for the lights.

 

The light switch you are looking for is on the truck side of the building. It is colored an "inscrutable" white to make sure that nobody sees it.  Push the button and the building should light up

 

Thanks Lee  &  Mark.

Good review Lee, and as for Menards reply, concern, and replacement for a defective product. I give "Kudos" and they stepped up to the plate which shows they want our business, and they take pride in their product. Wish more manufacturers were as concerned knowing full well they do read our forum.

As to weathering, I will add more and detail it more also, same for figures, they will be farm worker types. From what I read and seen, its a product, industry, I can add and will look good with the Lionel Grain elevator.

My only negative is the Truck, it adds 40 years to my layout, but at the price, I can sell it, and buy an earlier stake truck or tractor with grain trailer to it.

Again, great review by Lee, and great customer concern and guarantee for a needed item in "O". Keep bringing on more "O", and don't be discouraged. I'm ordering one, and sure my friend will also.

Originally Posted by Menards:
Originally Posted by Lee Willis:

Mine arrived yesterday but it was this morning before I opened it up to look.  

 

I have photos below to show my points, but quickly summarizing, this is a very mixed review, and perhaps the least positive I get about something - but overall it has a simplar number of good and bad points as I see it . . . 

Lee,

 

We are very sorry that you received a building with an upside down sign. I believe that this was an assembly issue and we apologize.

 

If you wouldn't mind sending your full name, address and telephone number to Ray customerservice@menardsoc.com, we will gladly send you a new building, free of charge. This new building has been taken out of its box, tested and inspected for upside down signs, etc. and everything looks good. We will see how the gods of transportation see fit to treat it on its journey to you.

 

The wiring inside the building is a bit of a science project but you are welcome to take the old building apart and kit bash it in anyway you like. Please send us your critique and enjoy!

 

The light switch you are looking for is on the truck side of the building. It is colored an "inscrutable" white to make sure that nobody sees it.  Push the button and the building should light up. Let us know, please, if it does not.

 

All the best,

Mark

Hey thanks.  You are good people.   I did find the switch (your are right, very cleverly hidden and nearly impossible to see (picture below, guys), but it is there, just looking very much like a brick in the foundation, and the lights come on now, on battery of with the power supply).  I searched all over . . . 

 

I appreciate your offer, but I don't need another building. This one will be fine after some minor operations, and it will actually be a nice building once I paint and weather

 

Thanks,

 

Lee

 

---------------- I SPENT SOME MORE TIME WITH IT JUST NOW AND . . . ---------------

 

1) The windows are NOT painted on . . . they are frosty/dirty "glass" (clear plastic) painted with the frames and you can barely see through them.  In the last of  three window pictures below, you are looking through one window to light coming in the other wide of the building for another window.

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2) The signs are printed paper and pasted on spaecial flat areas made for just them.  Folks were right, the wall is not upside down, the sign was applied upside down.  I got half of the sign off undamaged before I realized "why take care?" I was going to replace it with a non-Menards sign anyway, and I could print up another copy of that sign if I wanted . . .  Note that the space for the sign is flat, not shaped like the wood siding, so if you remove the sign, you have to replace it with another sign, not remove it and leave the wall bare.

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The wall is bowed.  I imagine this was not intentional - resin not cured long enough before assembly with screws tighten too much (like that "droopy" NEO '59 Oldsmobile I posted about three weeks ago.  Same thing).  BUT, who hasn't seen this is the real world.  Acceptable, whether intended or not . . . 

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3) And as said above, the lights work.  The light switch is here . . . I looked right past it many times.  In my defense, the truck was parked in front of it at the time: that is my excuse and I am sticking with it!!!!! 

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The lights are fairly cool. Particularly the one over the door looks good.

 

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The blinking red light is inside the elevator.  After a couple of shots I got a photo at the moment it was on . . . 

 

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4) I was unable to get the building off its base.  I removed all the screws, but it seems to be glued down firmly.  The wing-wall (on which was the upside down advertisement) has no screws into if from the base and yet it doesn't give even a hint of budging.  Neither, with all screws removed, does the building.  It's resin, so I am not about to take a chisel or try to pry it up.  I'll work with it on the base.

 

5) My plan is to repaint it, etc.  I'm not sure where and how - yet.  I may leave the wooden siding painted as it except for some serious weathering.  The roof I will paint aluminum/silver as galvinized metal, then seriously rust and weather.  I can print weathered/worn signs and will replace the one, maybe another.  I will remove the flocking and plant grass and bushes.  I will scribe lines on the base as for poured concrete and paint it concrete and weather than, add some barrels and feed bags and an older truck cab (my layout is 1950s), transfering the headlights .  

 

It will go here.  I am worried that development is gradually ruining the once pristine splendor of my tranquil, clean mountain lake area, but hasn't that been a problem for decades, everywhere?  Why should it be different on my layout?

 

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Lee:  Thanx for your report, plus all the follow up.  In spite of it's shortcomings, I think that I see a place for it on my layout and I'm going to try to get one.  I won't use batteries but will need to convert it to layout power.  Also, that truck will hafta go;  On my layout, which is set in 1950, it will look like something from Buck Rogers.  Wish they had given an option on the vehicle.  I also don't like the appearance of the light shining through the walls.  I often operate at night and a "glowing building" just doesn't look right.  Wonder if I can get to the inside of the wall and paint the surface black. 

 

I'm sure, that as time goes by and Menard's gets more experience, improvements will be made in future buildings.  Everyone has growing pains.

 

Paul Fischer

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