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Midweek Photos 10/15/2014

Tim O'MalleyTim O'MalleyOGR Forum Member

Well, it is Wednesday once again, and time for kicking off another thread of Midweek Photos!

The Fall foliage in Pennsylvania is reaching its peak, and it seemed like new colors were invented for this season.  I should have hired a chauffeur to drive me through the hills yesterday so I could get some photos.  Trees and leaves aside, I took the pickup to New Jersey to see what trains I could find.

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I wound up in Boonton, NJ. An open house of the United Railroads Historical Society a few weeks ago showed off many newly painted locomotives and rolling stock. These freshly painted items were back in storage, and not easily seen from a public standpoint.

Above is a neat, if heavily modified by vandalism fixes, power station near the DL&W freight station.

 

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The Lackawanna Freight House, to purists, might be called a "fright house!"  Pink stucco?  it serves as a small office building now.  Next to it is the Star Trak shop which houses the restoration facilities for URHS. 

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One of the many symbols of pride in the fleet is the NYC Observation car, "Hickory Creek."  It once served the 20th Century Limited.

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Some sun did appear before I left. The fences are high, but the openings are big enough to get a good camera shot through.  I stood on the guide rail to see above the fence for this one.

 

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This neat US Army Hospital car is part of their collection also.

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Hidden in the trees is the Jade green-painted NYC E8.

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One of the two GG1s the groups own, peeking through the leaves.

That's my contribution for the week.  Please add anything you like of your collection to this gathering.  Have a great week!

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t8afaot8afaoOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Nice photos everyone.  The hospital car looks cool.  Here are a few from over the weekend with my son.  Like the burn pattern on the BNSF.

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 001I have been seeing a lot of coal cars with covers on them lately, not sure if this is a new thing or what.  Here is a pic of one. 

003With Fall around the corner we caught this KCS through the trees.,   Last you need to have some corn fields with your coal trains to be in the Midwest. 

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DD Diesel DanOGR Forum Member

 

I loaded coal for the first time in maybe twenty years a few weeks ago.

 

I was called to relieve a crew at the Gateway Mine which is located on the UP's Sparta Sub, just east of Sparta, IL. This is former on the former Missouri-Illinois Railroad. Years ago, this was a Ziegler Mine.

 

Loading coal here is very different than what I hear coal is loaded in the Powder River Basin in Wyoming.  Here it takes about 5-6 hours to load 135 cars at a speed of 0.3MPH. If they over load, have to stop and back up to scoop some off. Very tedious and boring! Luckily, new locomotives have a computer slow speed function that will pretty much keep the speed in the proper range, if it is working right.

 

It takes multiple crews to get the train from Dupo, IL to the mine, load it and back to Dupo. It is about 75 rail miles one way.   

I Wyoming I hear they flood load 135 car train in 2 hours.

 

Dan

 

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Gary GravesGary GravesOGR Forum Member
Interesting. GGPX is a child mark to the GATX parent mark owned by the General American Transportation Corp private car line who runs a lot of tankers (4,000 crude and 8,000 flammable). On their website they say that the tank car leasing market may be peaking and they expect a new standard for newly built tank cars from DOT. What makes this interesting is that, with their focus on tankers, they have covered hoppers at all. I have heard about the loss of of spilled coal during transport, so the covers apparently are an attempt to minimize that. Thanks for sharing the pic. 
 
Originally Posted by t8afao:

I have been seeing a lot of coal cars with covers on them lately, not sure if this is a new thing or what.  Here is a pic of one. 

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t8afaot8afaoOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER
Originally Posted by Gary Graves:
Interesting. GGPX is a child mark to the GATX parent mark owned by the General American Transportation Corp private car line who runs a lot of tankers (4,000 crude and 8,000 flammable). On their website they say that the tank car leasing market may be peaking and they expect a new standard for newly built tank cars from DOT. What makes this interesting is that, with their focus on tankers, they have covered hoppers at all. I have heard about the loss of of spilled coal during transport, so the covers apparently are an attempt to minimize that. Thanks for sharing the pic. 
 
Originally Posted by t8afao:

I have been seeing a lot of coal cars with covers on them lately, not sure if this is a new thing or what.  Here is a pic of one. 

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Thanks for the info, I had asked my Father-in-law, he is retired engineer for BNSF out of Alliance and thought that he could remember talk about lost coal.  He said that from the Powder River Basin to Alliance a coal train with 110 cars will loose enough coal to fill one coal car.  He is not 100% on that but does remember a topic about that.  Thanks again for the info on the car.  Nick 

HW Hot WaterOGR Forum Member
Originally Posted by t8afao:

Thanks for the info, I had asked my Father-in-law, he is retired engineer for BNSF out of Alliance and thought that he could remember talk about lost coal.  He said that from the Powder River Basin to Alliance a coal train with 110 cars will loose enough coal to fill one coal car.  He is not 100% on that but does remember a topic about that.  Thanks again for the info on the car.  Nick 

As a result of the coal dust blowing off the thousands of coal trains in the Powder River Basin, over the last 25 years or so, the combination of rain, snow, and that powdery coal dust, the track structure became solidified. As a result, the whole entire Oran Line had to be completely rebuilt.

 

Now most all of the unit coal trains out of all the Powder River coal mines have a stabilizing "goop" sprayed on top of every coal car.

 

 

Mike CTMike CTOGR Forum Member

There are still (two) tunnels near the continental divide.  The Big Savage Tunnel, Old Western Maryland, Connellsville Ext. , part of the Great Allegheny Passage is still accessible via the bike/hike trail.  There are lights in the Big Savage tunnel.  Closest point Village of Deal.


The CSX main(s) is/are visible from the Keystone viaduct on the trail.  The railroad and bike trail diverge after that point, eventually back together again at the Narrows where both the trail/Western Maryland Scenic RR. and CSX enter Cumberland, MD.
Keystone Viaduct.

Up to Sandpatch.

Big Savage Tunnel, north portal, 2006 photo.

South Portal, 2009 photo.

Picture along the trail.

The bike ride from Meyersdale through the Big Savage tunnel to Frostburg and back is a good day experience.   We have done Rockwood, PA. to Frostburg, MD. and back as the 50 mile bike ride requirement, Boy Scout cycling merit badge.

Trail sign, north portal of the Big Savage Tunnel.

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Paul MoorePaul MooreOGR Forum Member
Originally Posted by Andy Hummell:

This past Sunday, a group of us went to Sand Patch to see what we could see.  Here are a few select shots:

 

 From above Sand Patch tunnel:

 

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Amtrak from the Overlook:

 

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At Falls Cut:

 

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Near Falls Cut:

 

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A couple from Hyndman, PA:

 

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Andy

I was just in Hyndman about a month ago.  Stayed at a place right by the tracks.  The only way to get to the house is to go on the old Pennsy roadbed.  Oh and by the way, your pictures from Hyndman are from the other side of town.

FloydSFloydSOGR Forum Member

Tim---

The Boonton Lackawanna Freight House has new owners. There's a large crew of

workers restoring both the exterior and interior. The exterior will be painted over with two (2) shades of grey. All modern fixtures have been removed and will replaced with "period" lamps, etc. I understand that all (steel?)supports for the shed roof will be sand blasted. Interior "office" is getting a complete restore. Lot's of busy carpenters going at it. This structure is incredibly well built and is my favorite in Jersey area.

Do not ask my grand daughter though. She loves the pink/salmon color--eh eh.

Dancing school thought that was a great idea.

 

Hope this helps

 

floyd

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