Mispronunciations

TM Terry posted:

Big Jim posted:

TM Terry posted:

Big Jim posted:

TM Terry posted:

We need to clear up the proper pronunciation ofthe NFL team in Jacksonville (2nd largest city in Georgia). The Jaguars is properly pronounced JAG’ - WIRES’ with strong accents on both syllables. If you have any doubts, visit Jacksonville and take a personal survey.

Welp, if the folks in Jacksonville think they live in Georgia, then, they have no business pronouncing Jaguar at all! And neither do you!!! 

But I do live here and have for 67 years. Pretty much know the history and its roots. If we shouldn’t call them JAG’ - WIRES’ we’ll call them DUUUUVAL!

The second largest city in Georgia is Columbus. But, since you live there, you knew that already...or do you really know where you live?

Frankly, I find it disturbing that you relish in insulting the good rednecks of Jacksonville. DUUUVAL!

 

 

 

I DID NOT insult the fine folks in Jacksonville, FLORIDA, you did! Go back and read what YOU  posted. You were the one that put them all the way up into GEORGIA!

I'm find it disturbing that you can't take some ribbing at your own mistake! 

beachhead 2, this New Englander has always pronounced Berkshire as berk-sheer.  I never heard it pronounced berk-sure.  Regardless of how we pronounce it,  I'm sure we all like Berkshire locos!

Joe Hohmann posted:

Nearby in SE Pennsylvania is Uwchlan township. Can anyone tell me how that is pronounced?

Hi Joe. Is that near Fulidelphia, where they used to read the Inkquirer? 

Big Jim posted:

TM Terry posted:

Big Jim posted:

TM Terry posted:

Big Jim posted:

TM Terry posted:

We need to clear up the proper pronunciation ofthe NFL team in Jacksonville (2nd largest city in Georgia). The Jaguars is properly pronounced JAG’ - WIRES’ with strong accents on both syllables. If you have any doubts, visit Jacksonville and take a personal survey.

Welp, if the folks in Jacksonville think they live in Georgia, then, they have no business pronouncing Jaguar at all! And neither do you!!! 

But I do live here and have for 67 years. Pretty much know the history and its roots. If we shouldn’t call them JAG’ - WIRES’ we’ll call them DUUUUVAL!

The second largest city in Georgia is Columbus. But, since you live there, you knew that already...or do you really know where you live?

Frankly, I find it disturbing that you relish in insulting the good rednecks of Jacksonville. DUUUVAL!

 

 

 

I DID NOT insult the fine folks in Jacksonville, FLORIDA, you did! Go back and read what YOU  posted. You were the one that put them all the way up into GEORGIA!

I'm find it disturbing that you can't take some ribbing at your own mistake! 

And likewise I find it humorous that you couldn't see that all I said was in jest.

A little history of the initial years of the pronunciation battles that persisted at the city's naming of the new NFL team in Jacksonville: Many with a strong southern accent would pronounce the team JAG' - WIRES' and they would get blasted when they did so. Some angered by the odd pronunciation would even complain to our talk radio sports station saying that those people made the rest of the country believe that we were a hick town.

It seems this thread was started to discuss mispronunciation of some railroad names. My post was to illustrate an example, a comic one IMO, where many people were extremely insulted when a name was mispronounced. 

BTW, when I was in school ('50's and '60's) a large number of my neighbors had moved from south Georgia to Jacksonville for work. (I lived on the north side of town.) The joke around here was that Jacksonville was the second largest city in the state of Georgia.

If you think a football mascot name is bad, the is a difference between the north and the south over the sound of "a" and "the".  You could start a nre "Great Rebellion" ovet it.

I’m from Nort Jersey. Sometimes I go to Sout Jersey. I worked in Iselin (pronounces Is-Lin - not eyes-Lin) and sometimes vacation in Absecon (pronounced ab-see-kin not ab-see-Kahn).

DKDKRD, It is Google spell check's version of "established".

Though off, it still tries to help many of us to evolve our language daily; jealous of it's sibling the original Google's role in all but outright replacing the word "search" all together.

 But alas it's "originality" and tendancy to defy orders is hopefully also it's impending doom vs it's ticket on the fame train.

It took eight of the above words and changed them to totally different words.

ThoughTcorrected now hough "post" could change a few as well fyi.

(I've left the last sentence intact as another example of Google total failure producing anything decent other than search results.)

"Barkser" is closer to the correct pronounciation (lacking a font good enough to show it much better than that)

   I just happened to be watching S1E1 of Monty Python Flying Circus and noticed that. (Reminder there wasn't yet an U.S. accent when they were named )

Joe Hohmann posted:

Nearby in SE Pennsylvania is Uwchlan township. Can anyone tell me how that is pronounced?

YouK-Lan township, simple.

Dave

Having been born in NYC and having spent my first 46 years in Queens and Nassau counties I have quite the New York accent.

When these folks here in Georgia ask me when will I  lose my accent, I tell them never. If I feel it slipping I put on a couple of episodes of the Sopranos or watch Godfather I and II, Goodfellas or My Cousin Vinny. I use them for elocution practice.

Fughetaboutit.

I also have problems getting Siri to understand me. I have to speak slowly and enunciate each syllable carefully. She's from California, so I just assume that she's flaky to begin with. 

If you want to see something hilarious, go to YouTube and search for "Apple Scotland", but only if you are not offended by profanity. You've been warned.

I recently went home to "the Island" for my niece's wedding. She was married in Aquebogue (East of Riverhead on the North Fork).  It's pronounced ACK-wuh-BOG. It is a Native American name, like many place names in New York.

Nick,

Most Long Island Indian names are botched by the residents. There were 13 tribes on the island, and as a rule they put the accent on the second syllable.  So while Islanders properly pronounce Napeague, they never pronounce Patchogue correctly... which should be puh-CHAWG.  Same with Montauk... which correctly is said mun-TAWK.  Cutchogue should be pronounced cuh-CHAWG... but too many City People have screwed things up for too long.

Jon  

Sometimes the "proper" pronunciation is no longer the accepted pronunciation. In the history of Jacksonville, FL during the 16th century a significant figure was a French explorer and colonizer named Jean Ribault.  The proper pronunciation of his last name is Ree - boe'. In honor of Jean Ribault there a few things that were given his namesake, ex., the Ribault River and my high School, officially called the Jean Ribault High School. 

Jean Ribault High School was established in 1957 and was commonly referred to as Ribault High. There was much confusion about the proper pronunciation of "Ribault". All purest knew the proper pronunciation was its French pronunciation, but the "everyday folks" had other ideas. The original disagreement was between Ree' -bault and Rie' - bault. It wasn't very long before Ree' - bault won out. 

To this day the accepted pronunciation is Ree' - bault and not its French pronunciation. Is it correct? The folks of Jacksonville have decided to take their version as correct.

RJ Corman goes through Dubois, PA (DOO-Boyce)... while CSX goes through Versailles, PA (ver-sails).

Jon  

There's a Nicollet county (and street in Minneapolis) pronounced "nickle-it", but over in Wisconsin Nicolet National Forest is pronounced "nik-o-lay". (Both named after the same French explorer, apparently one "l" is the correct spelling.)

Pres. Jefferson lived in Monticello (Mon-tah-CHEL-low) in Virginia, but the city in Minnesota is "Mon-tah-SELL-oh".

IIRC Karo (kay-row) Syrup is named after Cairo, IL, using the local's way of saying it.

KOOLjock1 posted:

RJ Corman goes through Dubois, PA (DOO-Boyce)... while CSX goes through Versailles, PA (ver-sails).

Jon  

Interestingly, southern Illinois has both a Dubois and a Versailles. The first is close to the PA pronunciation - DOO-boys - but the second is Ver-SAIL-ees!

Every sound and form you use today in Modern English was once a mistake, a deviation from the correct sound or form.

How about what is probably the most famous model railroad name:  John Allen's "Gorre & Daphietid">

It is pronounced Gory & Defeated.   NH Joe

Here's one for you, a train station in Wales ... 

for help in pronunciation, see http://www.llanfairpwllgwyngyl...gogoch.co.uk/say.php

Is that John Cleese hiding behind the fence???

PS: Can't afford it.....my sign budget is only $3000.

Simon

Does the conductor get overtime when he calls out "Next station stop Llan-vire………."

Yea, easy for you to say!

Q. for the Noo Yawkas - I was told by a native that Long Island has the G on the wrong side of the space, should be Lon Gisland , since it's pronounced "Lawn GUY-land".

Lionel

Is it "LI-on-el" or "LINE-uhl"?

Neither.

It's "Liuh NEL".

You really should have known.

Andre

Alentown posted:

Joe Hohmann posted:

Nearby in SE Pennsylvania is Uwchlan township. Can anyone tell me how that is pronounced?

Hi Joe. Is that near Fulidelphia,

It's near Exton, not Fillydelfia.

laming posted:

Neither.

It's "Liuh NEL".

You really should have known.

Andre

Who remembers the Jackie Gleason Show and the character "Reggie Van Gleason" when he'd say "The drinks are swell on the Li-on-el" as a Lionel train would deliver them to him.

To a native Long Islander (14th generation), it’s pronounced Long I-Lind.  And going east to west is termed “going up Island”, west to east, “down island”.

Jon  

Kooljock1

 Congradjulashuns for the most edjukashunal thread! Lol

 Al

"Booze is swell with Lionel".   Page 210, All Aboard!  By Ron Hollander.

Farmer_Bill posted:

Here's one for you, a train station in Wales ... 

 I bet that they do not play scrabble there.

Joe Hohmann,

Uwchlan is pronounced " You'klan" (emphasis in the U). I have family there and I took me a few visits to get it right.