Missouri Pacific Lines Let’s see them.

Horrors!  I have two C&S cabooses, that l found trucks on a Mullet River side door had zinkpested, so l had to replace, but found l have no known MP cabooses (unless one of side doors l accumulated over years out of junk boxes) is a model of one.  Did Mullet River offer any MP kits?  Haven't seen an O MP brass caboose ...there is that once common Hallmark related T&P brass side door, but MP?C&S and Burlington used some of same cabooses; any chance T&P and related MP used that same side door?

"When all else fails, read the directions", so l went to the Michels MP caboose book.  Hundreds of cabooses in history of the MP, and its several affiliates. MP had connections in south, the C&El in eastern Illinois, and assorted other subsidiaries. A number of brass HO cabooses are shown, but none of the many side doors, combine cabooses, and drovers of the MP.  The list is so long, with photos of many similar side doors, that l can only guess which one might match the Hallmark T&P O scale version. An MP expert might know.

Have you tried to take your question directly to Michaels. He seems to be the doctor when it comes to MP cabeese.  Pat B.

Did anybody on the forum buy the Sunshine special engine and cars Lionel offered a few years back?   If so, I'd love to see pics (as opposed to the catalog guesstimations).

@palallin posted:

Did anybody on the forum buy the Sunshine special engine and cars Lionel offered a few years back?   If so, I'd love to see pics (as opposed to the catalog guesstimations).

I think @TrainBub has them.

Palallin, I bought the seven cars offered most recently: the set of 4, the set of 2, and the diner. I missed out on the earlier release of the Sunshine Special RPO and the Missouri Pacific Northern. I also have several Atlas MP and TP express refers that might look good in this train. I am out of town for another two weeks, but have hoped to post photos of that train and perhaps another one or two MP themed trains in this thread. The best I can do at this point to lead this train is a SP Northern 3751 (No Bueno) or a MP Mikado. If I had the MP Northern, I would try to run a second Section with the Mikado. In this thread I maybe able to run an E-6 Texas Eagle, a coal drag, or a mixed freight. But not for two weeks. Pat B.

@Texas Eagle 77 posted:

I think @TrainBub has them.

I wish I did but I missed those. ☹️
MikeH does though. Let’s see if we can get him to post some pix.

OOPS !!!! I just scrolled back and he DID post a few pix of the Sunshine Special !!!

@MikeH posted:

Hey, me too!

Not Williams but Lionel passenger cars...

Nice train. Just noticed the dark green windows, does Lionel install them now in everything? Or can you get clear ones? Thx.

@BobbyD posted:

Nice train. Just noticed the dark green windows, does Lionel install them now in everything? Or can you get clear ones? Thx.

I'm not sure if they install them on everything but they do install them quite a bit.  Swapping them for some clear plastic would be easy.  It doesn't bother me so I'm keeping them as-is.

@MikeH posted:

I'm not sure if they install them on everything but they do install them quite a bit.  Swapping them for some clear plastic would be easy.  It doesn't bother me so I'm keeping them as-is.

Wouldn't change them out if I had that set either, was just thinking our older set has clear windows and wondering how they would look mixed together.

@colorado hirailer can you post pictures of the one you think might be MP?

Was recently in Kansas City, MO for school, picked up this Vision Line boxcar as a souvenir. Sorry for the bad pic I have it packed away in my suitcase and don’t really want to take it out.

I’ve posted this in the “Midwest Monday” thread - so in case you missed it  - here’s what I call a nice “portrait”.

3rd Rail MP E6 “A” / Run 1

I believe there were only about 10 of these (3 rail and 2 rail combined) in Run 1, even less “B” units.  3rd Rail E5, 6  Run 2 is currently being executed and hopefully could be finished near end of this year(?). MP is again being done in this paint scheme And Also in Jenks Blue. A side-by-side “family portrait” will be presented then. Great Fun !!!

Cheers 😜

Texas Eagle:. I can't find quickly my Hallmark brass T&P "muley" caboose, but found an ATSF brass side door that l doubt has an MP twin.

I have finally completed my MPC MoPac/T&P cataloged offerings train:

Great thread!  I grew up not far from DeSoto and had friends and relatives that worked at the Mopac car shops.  Years ago I'd chase trains over at Dupo, IL and around the St Louis metro area.  I'm slowly building up an O scale roster for retirement (most of my collection is N scale).  Here are a few pics of some things I have.  A modified Weaver GP38-2, a kit-bashed short bay window caboose, a rural depot in MP trim, and one of my Atlas GP15-1s.

@Tim Mc posted:

Great thread!  I grew up not far from DeSoto and had friends and relatives that worked at the Mopac car shops.  Years ago I'd chase trains over at Dupo, IL and around the St Louis metro area.  I'm slowly building up an O scale roster for retirement (most of my collection is N scale).  Here are a few pics of some things I have.  A modified Weaver GP38-2, a kit-bashed short bay window caboose, a rural depot in MP trim, and one of my Atlas GP15-1s.

Welcome to the MP blog Tim !!!  Nice contribution.  It would be cool to tell us how you kit-bashed the Very Nice caboose. It’s Regrettable No One Does these.        You have made something quite unique for MP. 👍👍👍

Some older glimpses of MoPac action on the Austin Tinplate Trackers layout.

Ricky, What model is the caboose in your third picture? Pat B.

A few more pics of my 2-Rail MP rolling stock.  I added some notes in case someone is trying to find one of them.

Atlas 45' trailers on an Atlas 89' flat car:

Atlas 60' excess height boxcar:

Atlas cylindrical hopper:

Weaver quad hopper:

Weaver reefer (w/sound):

Weaver hopper with PRB brass bottom:

Atlas wide-vision caboose modified & painted for Mopac (Atlas special edition caboose in MP in the background):

Shot of office loop with Atlas GP15-1s & MP15DC under a 3M Scotchlite Mopac cab logo:

Here's a link to one of my Mopac short bay window cabooses, based on an Atlas frame, trucks and wiring:

https://ogrforum.com/...7#151069472785394557

Nice group of rolling stock Tim !!!  Especially your Fleet of cabooses !!!! I’m envious of that - I’ve Trolled for years to get an acceptable MP caboose (didn’t like the Trainman offering) and Finally found a MP subsidiary T&P (MTH).  MP and T&P cabooses are Quite Scarce !!!!!                  I’ve not seen that piggyback before. Nice but Pushing 90’ scale would be challenging on my 072 & 096 loop. I need to pay more attention to Weaver cars. What you have here would definitely expand the diversity of my MP/T&P cars.
Thanks for the caboose link !!!  Quite nice !!!!!  You might add a link to your kitbash diesel thread. It’s quite good and I’m sure it would be Appreciated with the participants in this thread !!!

Cheers !!!!!! 🙂😜

Thanks!  Here's the link to the Mopac (ex Rock Island) GP38-2 project:

https://ogrforum.com/...c/156701992097885237

Boy. Where are the MP fans ??? Out fishing at Lake of the Ozarks or Table Rock ?????? I guess I Gotta stir the pot !!! 🤔😳😜

I spent some time over the weekend upgrading to fixed pilots and Kaydees for my MP and T&P E8s. I’m prepping them out in anticipation of the upcoming Golden Gate Sunset MP and T&P Texas Eagles  !!! My MP E6 is ready. Only my MP Alco need to be upgraded.
Cheers !!! 😜

Any MP fans still kicking out there ????  Let’s see if I can get this going again.

Here’s a couple of heavyweight baggage cars in Jenks blue.  These will see use in an Express/mail train with my to be delivered (hope by January) 3rd Rail E6 in Jenks blue.

These are MTH Premier 18” cars custom painted for me by Harry Heike.

@TrainBub posted:

Any MP fans still kicking out there ????  Let’s see if I can get this going again.

Here’s a couple of heavyweight baggage cars in Jenks blue.  These will see use in an Express/mail train with my to be delivered (hope by January) 3rd Rail E6 in Jenks blue.

These are MTH Premier 18” cars custom painted for me by Harry Heike.

Yes we’re still here thanks for sharing I think we’re just busy at least I am.

Comparing my Atlas and MTH MoPac 4 axle power.

Decided my Katy / WP power needed some love too!

Here’s a MP Mail/express.  Visible Atlas F3 AB, Atlas T&P storage mail 40’ box, Pecos River 50’ double door box.  Hard to see express reefers and baggage cars trailing.
Cheers 😜

@Texas Eagle 77 posted:

Comparing my Atlas and MTH MoPac 4 axle power.

Decided my Katy / WP power needed some love too!

Always nice seeing a great “Fleet” !!!

@TrainBub posted:

Always nice seeing a great “Fleet” !!!

Thanks!

Mullett caboose kit. RY trucks. Rare now days, long out of production. Only for the advanced builder.  Yes the Mop lives.

@Tim Mc posted:

Great thread!  I grew up not far from DeSoto and had friends and relatives that worked at the Mopac car shops.  Years ago I'd chase trains over at Dupo, IL and around the St Louis metro area.  I'm slowly building up an O scale roster for retirement (most of my collection is N scale).  Here are a few pics of some things I have.  A modified Weaver GP38-2, a kit-bashed short bay window caboose, a rural depot in MP trim, and one of my Atlas GP15-1s.

Tim sorry for the so late reply nice pics thanks for sharing and I did the same thing the past two years I’ve bought and saved and built my O Scale empire the way I wanted. Last year I retired after driving a Tractor Trailer for over 33 years got a couple seasonal jobs and now it’s time to play with trains.

Here’s some pics of my Lionel GP7 and a video

The latest release from Atlas

@DG posted:

The latest release from Atlas

Very nice thanks for sharing

I went through the 3 pages of this thread to make sure no one has previously mentioned this. The Lionel catalog was the 1st time I had ever heard about the Missouri Pacific. I'll bet that for many of us northeasterners, that was also true for them.

For me, it was the '57 catalog......this neat O27 Alco set. One of our modular group members actually received this set as his 1st set.

My friend has said that he spent his days loading and unloading the logs and pipes with the Erie crane.....

For those a little older (I turn 70 in June), I suspect the 1954 catalog with the beautiful MoPac boxcar.....

Have a great day, everyone!

Peter

Just a FYI for any late comers - Golden Gate Depot is about ready to close reservations for its MP and T&P Texas Eagle offering. Check out their webpage for details. 🤔

Cheers 😉

@Putnam Division posted:

I went through the 3 pages of this thread to make sure no one has previously mentioned this. The Lionel catalog was the 1st time I had ever heard about the Missouri Pacific. I'll be that for many of us northeasterners, that was also true for them.

For me, it was the '57 catalog......this neat O27 Alco set. One of our modular group members actually received this set as his 1st set.

My friend has said that he spent his days loading and unloading the logs and pipes with the Erie crane.....

For those a little older (I turn 70 in June), I suspect the 1954 catalog with the beautiful MoPac boxcar.....

Have a great day, everyone!

Peter

Peter thanks for the leg work on this and sharing I appreciate it

My MP E6 “Dynamic Duo”

Cheers !!! 😉

Atlas release from around 15 years ago

@DG posted:

Atlas release from around 15 years ago

DG thanks for sharing