Missouri Pacific Lines Let’s see them.

A few more of my MP roster.

@Texas Eagle 77 posted:

A few more of my MP roster.

Very nice thanks for posting more pics.

Bought this old Lionel/ MPC GP7 last week along with some MoPac Hoppers

Eagle Merchandise Cars

The mention of the lead mining area of Missouri might be of interest here. My Dad's older brother died of a rail road incident at Herculaneum, MO., in Nov. 1915. His foot was caught in a frog and the train passed over him. Here is a history of that area which includes mention of the Mississippi River & Bonne Terre Railway, which eventually became part of MoPac.

Herculaneum, Missouri - Wikipedia

Mississippi River and Bonne Terre Railway - Wikipedia

Here is an associated link to another railroad which contains vintage pictures including a two axel caboose.

http://www.mopac.org/store/boo...ri-illinois-railroad

Fantasy MP scheme (silver trucks) based on the handsome Gilbert American Flyer MP Alco PA's with Williams aluminum cars repainted to match the F3s. Lionel 2353's painted by Steve Latta - Nostalgia Train Works 25+ years ago! He also did the 2343's on the lower track. They were particularly nice with the thin red stripes separating the yellow and dark blue.

I miss my layout!

@c.sam posted:

Fantasy MP scheme (silver trucks) based on the handsome Gilbert American Flyer MP Alco PA's with Williams aluminum cars repainted to match the F3s. Lionel 2353's painted by Steve Latta - Nostalgia Train Works 25+ years ago! He also did the 2343's on the lower track. They were particularly nice with the thin red stripes separating the yellow and dark blue.

I miss my layout!

Fantasy or not, those are just beautiful!!

Not to steal the thread but this N&W / MoPac car has had me puzzled. Looks like an N&W car, right? But look closely at the upper right and the second picture. For the MoPac experts, what was the relationship between N&W and MoPac for moving refrigerated items? Or is this an imaginary car?

BTW, the K-Line box calls it:

A short sequence of a MoPac local under the charge of USRA Mike #1310 rounding the curve at Notch Junction (aka Bethlehem).  In tow are MP boxcar #45112, Frisco boxcars #128528 & #17826, T&P flatcar #9828 & stock car #24042, MoPac stock car #52428, and MoPac caboose #922.

I have a set of Brand New Williams M.P. Passenger Car Set for sale...if anyone is interested.

Patrick. This is the 3rd time you've mentioned these cars - Why don't you post a photo or two?

Williams BL2 at the engine house ...

Well my offerings for MoPac are very humble indeed, but I will post them here just for the fun of seeing them with all your beautiful scale items.

Here is the Marx #54099  MoPac operating cattle car from 1956-57.  There is a mechanical trip under the car which when activated opens the door and pushes a cow partially out the exit.

Here is the Marx #800 GE 70 ton switcher and the matching Marx #1231 MoPac caboose.

Well that's about it for my MoPac equipment.  Best wishes for a great new year!

Don

@palallin posted:

M.P. Caboose #922 (Modified K-Line) fresh from the paintshop passing the farm heading into Notch Junction:

Nice! What paint did you use?

Thank you!

Honestly, I don't remember:  I did this car years ago.  I *think* it was a Krylon color.  If I can find it, I will post again; sorry that I don't have it at my fingertips.

@hokie71 posted:

Not to steal the thread but this N&W / MoPac car has had me puzzled. Looks like an N&W car, right? But look closely at the upper right and the second picture. For the MoPac experts, what was the relationship between N&W and MoPac for moving refrigerated items? Or is this an imaginary car?

BTW, the K-Line box calls it:

I am not an expert, but I will try to address the question. American Refrigerator Transit was a long time joint venture between the Wabash and Missouri Pacific railroads. A some point in the nineteen-sixties the Wabash was merged into the Norfolk & Western. This car represents the post merger period with N&W acting as as a successor to Wabash under the agreement. Hence the reason for N&W signage on this car.  Models of the ART cars usually have Wabash markings rather than N&W.  Pat B.

Thank you, that makes sense and connects the dots. I don't think I would have figured that out.

Here my MPC Lionel GP7 making a  short run I really like this Engine

Love the Mop. It's one of my "Foundational Four" (+1) that I used to guide my "Kansas City & Gulf" freelanced theme.

The Mop's blue and gray was classic. I really like the way some of the blue/gray engines weathered. I also liked the Jenks Blue. LOVED the way it faded/weathered so fast.

(I like weathering.)

From my folders:

Andre

@laming posted:

Love the Mop. It's one of my "Foundational Four" (+1) that I used to guide my "Kansas City & Gulf" freelanced theme.

Andre

MoPac, Frisco, ATSF and UP?

MPC operating MoPac boxcar on top row to the left is all I have in MoPac livery.....

Peter

@laming posted:

Love the Mop. It's one of my "Foundational Four" (+1) that I used to guide my "Kansas City & Gulf" freelanced theme.

The Mop's blue and gray was classic. I really like the way some of the blue/gray engines weathered. I also liked the Jenks Blue. LOVED the way it faded/weathered so fast.

(I like weathering.)

From my folders:

Andre

Andre, I have three words for your pics: Grimy! Grungy! Gorgeous!  Pat B.

@Putnam Division posted:

MPC operating MoPac boxcar on top row to the left is all I have in MoPac livery.....

Peter

Peter, Your Eagle LCL Boxcar needs to be on the rails on the "Put" earning revenue.  BTW your new train room is looking great.  Pat B.

@lpb007 posted:

Peter, Your Eagle LCL Boxcar needs to be on the rails on the "Put" earning revenue.  BTW your new train room is looking great.  Pat B.

Pat......Thank you!

A regret from York Oct 2021 was a O scale 50' Lionel MoPac boxcar in the same livery.....$20....when I went back, it was gone.....

Peter

This just popped up on my radar so I’ll drop a couple of contributions.

Atlas On left. Remaining are 3rd Rail.  NDM on right is for Aztec Eagle - Mexico continuation of Texas EAGLE  MTH U30s

Rusty

Here's a few more shots of my MoPac fleet.

Here is some MoPac equipment I see our on the real line around Austin. Lot's steel coal hoppers out there still.

Oh, I wish I could find the few snapshots I took back in the 1960s of MoPac passenger trains in Austin. Failing that - same location as many of Texas Eagle 77's pix, when I took the Texas Eagle in 2013.

I have an Atlas GP7 MoPac on order. Should arrive in the next month or so.

David

Well I’ll throw in a modest twist. Here’s a nice pic of Missouri Pacific subsidiary Texas & Pacific. Orange is Atlas GP7 and blue is 3rd Rail GP9. I really like the two paired together.

Atlas did a decent job with Swamp Holly Orange.

@palallin posted:

Atlas did a decent job with Swamp Holly Orange.

It’s Very Nice and the color IS Correct.
I wish I would have been able to get an unpowered unit too. I Almost missed the powered unit. I found a Last one in stock and had to pay full MSRP for it. That was a burn but I was Pleased to score one !!!

Third shelf up from the floor left hand side there is a A-A set of American Flyer Missouri Pacific diesels.

I repainted and decaled a panel-side gondola for subsidiary Missouri-Illinois over the winter. Nice feature of the thin sheet metal sides of this model is you can prototypically dent them.

~Chris

I’ll expand this thread just a bit and include MPs subsidiary T&P. I do this as I Finally after Many Years scored a Nice MTH T&P caboose. So Pleased !!!!!  The hunt continues for a MP caboose 🤔                             Nice MP and T&P cabooses are              SO  Scarce !!!

Wow! Totally forgot about this thread until it got bumped back up onto the radar!

I see I missed some replies/question, so let me make like frog and hop to it...

jacobpaul81:

Concerning my comment about my "Foundational Four" railroads I used to guide my decisions about my proto/free lanced "Kansas City & Gulf" theme, you asked this:

"MoPac, Frisco, ATSF and UP?"

You got half of it right!

Actually, it was four lines that were regional to the area I have lived in since moving from KC MO in January of '69: The Arklahoma region of western Arkansas and eastern Oklahoma. Specifically, the Ozark and Ouachita mountains that lays over the AR/OK border. (I've lived in the eastern OK portion since May of '90.)

Those lines are: The Frisco, the Missouri Pacific, the Rock Island, and the Kansas City Southern.

I also take a look at how the Missouri-Kansas-Texas (the "Katy") did things, for they run along side my region, too. However, the "Foundataional Four" are the ones that determine "go-no go" on whether I incorporate an idea into my KC&G theme.

Pat B said:

"Andre, I have three words for your pics: Grimy! Grungy! Gorgeous!"

As I said, I loved the way the blue and gray of the Mop weathered. (The Jenks Blue scheme did, too.)

With the Mop being part of my "Foundational Four" that I use to guide my decisions concerning my proto/free lanced HO scale KC&G theme, I chose colors that are very close to what the Mop used for their blue and gray scheme. However, I did lighten the blue and the gray to better suit typical layout lighting. Also, my paint schemes reflect the Mop (hood units) as we as the Frisco (cab units).

Here's a pic of tatty KC&G #255 idling alongside the small engine house at the mountain town of Ozarka, Arkansas. Does the paint scheme and colors remind you of the Mop? That was intentional!

Andre

Here’s a MP “local”.  

3rd Rail MP Alco PA, Atlas T&P Mail Storage, Golden Gate Depot T&P baggage, GGD MP heavyweight coach

Time for a bit more MP !!!!

L to R / 3rd Rail GP9 (actually T&P), Atlas GP7, Atlas F3

My only piece of MoPac in my collection is a FM publicity piece , showing  Train Master in MoPac colors ... that’d be a sharp looking piece and would cause a few questions , on a layout ...

i have no record in my FM files of the Train Masters demonstrating on the MoPac ...

Thought l had posted this MoPac gas electric, but see a lot of photos "blanked".  May have caboose to add...should have a lot, given this road's fantastic variety, but don't.

This engine and caboose are my only MPs.

Lionel 6-8562, GP 20 with repainted Missouri Pacific SP style Caboose in background.  The GP 20 works good on my 027 curves and 31 Marx 027, metal frog 1590 switches.

Charlie