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Good Afternoon Fellow O scale gurus,

 

I am newer to O scale. Currently, I am very accustomed to the HO scale mindset and have been running DCC for 80% of my time modeling. 

 

With my newer venture into O scale and my knowledge of HO, I have thoughts of something that may be a bit unique.

 

My original post that touches base with this topic is in the general forum, but I'd figure it would be benefitial to make a bit more of a detailed post here. Although I am not in a house just yet, I am playing with ideas in my apartment. My house plan will be to have a layout that will hopefully be able to run around the wall of the basement in a shelf layout style. To keep the layout flexable to new ideas and or improvements on the track plan, the track, building, everything on the table will not be permanently attached. I invision a carpet top layout, probably gray. 

 

To keep the cost down a bit and to keep the layout more traditionally sized, I have no intention on running DCS or Legacy/TMCC systems. I prefer a conventional layout with some lionchief/ LC+ locos if I see one that I like. 

 

My question for this forum is what are some good options for creating a block system and a walk around option for conventional control? I know it may be bit of a tall order but i'm still entertaining the idea. 

 

The only way i can create blocks is using this idea. http://www.ogaugehobbyist.com/...strack-block-wiring/  For a small carpet layout, it has worked very nicely. I can see this being implemented on a larger layout. My thought is when having multiple operators on the layout, There will be one train on the mainline at a time as the main will be its own block. Each section where there is a good amount of switching activity and a yard will have its own dedicated power supply to do the work for that area. For run arounds and stations, those will only be a simple on/off block tied to the main. From the main leading into an area controlled with its own transformer will have a buffer/power transfer section. the loco will go into the transition, stop and flip a switch in the track to transfer the power source from main to local transformer. Accessory and signal blocks will be kept to the same standards that Lionel has in place. 

 

Oh, before I forget, in my future modifications for my toggle switch track sections, I will put in an LED and a small full wave bridge rectifier and needed resistor to indicate if the block is active or not. 

 

Any thoughts or ideas? This idea is only in its infancy right now.

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Zackesch-

 

Unfortunately there aren't too many walk around remotes for conventional operation, but the two that come to mind are MTH's Z4000 Remote Commander and MRC Dual Power O27. Both remotes will control two tracks independently, but do so differently. The MTH remote is wireless, whereas the MRC remote is wired (similar to cab remotes in HO/N). Another way to go is to fabricate a handheld rheostat control, which will enable you to slow down and control trains (in a yard or other area) by plugging the remote into a special outlet on your layout.

 

With conventional block control, most operators opt for a central control panel with additional remote sub-panels for specific areas. In terms of power you can go with a large single transformer or several smaller ones (in phase of course), depending on what your budget and needs are.

 

Hope this helps!

 

-John

 

 

I ditto Johns reply, I am using the Powermasters and Cab 1L on my S gauge layout. This gives the option of running only conventional or TMCC/Legacy. Because I have motive power of both types I am extremely happy with this system.

 

Ray

 

You can also consider the Legacy PowerMaster and the Legacy Lite BASE1L/CAB1L system.  This gives you conventional remote control and a an upgrade path to go with command in the future.

 

Thanks John, I will look into the Powermaster and cab option. 

 

My other idea is to have a transformer per major block section ie: the main line will have its own transformer with electrically isolated blocks for passenger stations, passing sidings etc, a yard would be its own block with the same electrically isolated blocks for lit cars, another would be an area that I would do more switching. I was looking into phasing the transformers to have more of a transition, but something about that concept does not feel right to me. This is were my transition track comes into play. The transition track will allow me to pull my locomotive in a block controlled by another transformer controlled area, flip a switch and exchange the control from the main block into a yard/industrial/secondary transformer power district. 

 

 

Keeping the voltage at the same level on the transition is the key. Phasing is expected and a must.

 

If you have a two pick-up engine or car and the transition is at different voltages, you could possibly bridge the two transformers and the get sum of the two voltages briefly.

 

So, you enter the realm of relays. Here is Dale H. techniques from a different forum. He is great at these conventional control issues.

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