Monster NS Freight 14K Mid Train Helpers - But WOW - 864 Axles / 210 Cars = Video & Photos

What does it mean "14K" and "16G"?

Ken-Oscale posted:

What does it mean "14K" and "16G"?

Norfolk Souther train numbers?

Awesome Tom.  Thanks for the video.

Hot Water posted:

Ken-Oscale posted:

What does it mean "14K" and "16G"?

Norfolk Souther train numbers?

Jack, your correct. The 14K and 16G mean the train symbol. Each freight, intermodal, passenger have a symbol to know what train is out on the system. Also this way if MOW are working on track, that MOW already knows the symbol for that train coming. To give an example of also what the numbers / symbols mean, watch my video below and you'll hear the MOW say 20E. The 8025 is the engine leading.

wild mary posted:

Awesome Tom.  Thanks for the video.

Thank you.

WOW .. great video and pictures,, that was one long train.

cabinet Bob posted:

WOW .. great video and pictures,, that was one long train.

Bob, thank you. And yes, it sure was long. Not the longest I've seen though.

Nice video, thanks for sharing. But I have a question, cause I don't know. The helper engines, are they man'ed?

Only the lead unit is manned -- all the others are under MU and remote (radio) control. Really nice video -- the train is probably at least 10,500 feet in length (210 x 50' car).

Good job Tom! I like the ex- Conrail, C40-8W, #8327, still going strong after 26yrs. Guess CSX isn't the only one running monster trains.

wrawroacx posted:

cabinet Bob posted:

WOW .. great video and pictures,, that was one long train.

Bob, thank you. And yes, it sure was long. Not the longest I've seen though.

Even T scale is far too large, let alone N scale.

mike g. posted:

Nice video, thanks for sharing. But I have a question, cause I don't know. The helper engines, are they man'ed?

Thank you and for the manned part of helpers like these, no they are controlled from the lead unit.

If you want more info, here's a site with some information - http://cs.trains.com/trc/f/1/t/43905.aspx

B Smith posted:

Only the lead unit is manned -- all the others are under MU and remote (radio) control. Really nice video -- the train is probably at least 10,500 feet in length (210 x 50' car).

Thanks Smith. Yes, you are correct about what you said. As to the length, because I posted this on Train Orders as well, someone said the train is 12,500 feet. As to the axle count how I get that, I count 4 axles per cars X 210 = 840 axle count on cars + 24 axles for all units counted = 864 axles all together. And in case some people do not know, the railroads count the whole train, not just the cars.

PAUL ROMANO posted:

Good job Tom! I like the ex- Conrail, C40-8W, #8327, still going strong after 26yrs. Guess CSX isn't the only one running monster trains.

Paul, yes, that Dash 8 was a really nice catch. I know some day these units will be gone. I read early this year in a RR magazine that all NS Dash 8's will be out of service by 2022.

Woodshire Bill posted:

 

wrawroacx posted:

cabinet Bob posted:

WOW .. great video and pictures,, that was one long train.

Bob, thank you. And yes, it sure was long. Not the longest I've seen though.

 

Even T scale is far too large, let alone N scale.

Well to add to this, this video below is of the longest train I have seen in person. This freight below was CSX Q393 with 234 cars which total axle count was 954 I seen back in Apr 2017 in Mentor Ohio. I still haven't beaten this record yet.

wrawroacx posted:

mike g. posted:

Nice video, thanks for sharing. But I have a question, cause I don't know. The helper engines, are they man'ed?

Thank you and for the manned part of helpers like these, no they are controlled from the lead unit.

If you want more info, here's a site with some information - http://cs.trains.com/trc/f/1/t/43905.aspx

Thanks for the information. It sure is nice to learn new things!

That must have been some sight to see in person.  All I can say is "wow! what a great catch!".

-Greg

wrawroacx posted:

Yesterday I ventured out to Rootstown & Newton Falls Ohio to see a few NS and CSX trains. Well there were a few good trains, but this one was the best. I had no clue that 14K was coming. So when I saw a light and 2 units approaching the curve at New Milford Rd and saw the freight cars I thought it maybe was 16G. But when the cars just kept coming and coming and also the large pipes, etc. I was wondering, is it possibly 14K, well my anwser came when 2 mid train helpers appeared and one helper was even CP. So I'm so glad I film every train I see because this train is worth to watch. The total car count is 210 and the total axle count counting all the units is 864. You'll even see a couple R&N hoppers, N&W also. And those large pipes were a plus. Anyway, I had to post this because this was the first time I've seen 14K with DPU's.

Good griff!I thought they stopped doing mid train helpers!I do not know where he is going but he is on his way.