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I wonder if anyone has looked at the new MTH catalog with the NW2 switchers. They have a Burlington painted in RED. This never happened. All the CB&Q switchers were painted in the blackbird scheme. 

 

How much research does MTH put into painting engines and cars? Most of the time they either get it right or close to right. This isn't even close.

 

I know these are "toys" and that many engines and cars are painted correctly. But some have whimsical paint schemes, such as Lay Potato chips, McDonalds, etc by different manufacturers. But I don't remember seeing any odd ball paint schemes on MTH engines.

 

It would appear to me that MTH did absolutely NO RESEARCH on the Burlington NW2. That someone just GUESSED at the color. 

 

It's a shame what they did. I know CB&Q does not sell as well as ATSF, NYC, UP, PENN and a few others, but they should at least get it right. Would not be surprised if dealers who picked these up from MTH will be stuck with this white elephant. 

 

I know many Q modelers that will NOT buy this engine. 

 

Ray

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Originally Posted by Norton:

I must be missing something. Is Rusty's picture photoshopped or is that not an NW2?

 

 

Pete

It's not Photoshopped.  It's a valid photograph of the one and only switcher on the Burlington Route painted Chinese Red. 

 

The 605 is an NW2 that belonged to the Fort Worth and Denver, a Burlington subsidiary.  If I recall correctly, when the powers that be saw it, the edict came down "thou shalt not paint anymore switchers Chinese Red" or something to that effect.

 

So, the MTH offering is correct for one and only one locomotive and there was no calf.  Outside of the calf, there's nothing wrong with MTH's research in this matter.  Plus, MTH's research also got the number right...

 

Rusty

Last edited by Rusty Traque

Rusty's Picture is the EXACT engine in the catalog. Paint looks good to me.

The Headlight Assembly appears wrong (short) to me tho.

The difference could be in the angle of the 2 pictures.

 

I suspect the OP's problem is Burlington proper VS CB&Q.

This is a Burlington engine, not a CB&Q, buy what ya want, If it's offered.

This is what is offered, not the CB&Q.

 

EDIT: I see Rusty posted in ahead of me. Such is life.

 

Bottom Line? Have FUN.

Last edited by Russell
Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
It's a valid photograph of the one and only switcher on the Burlington Route painted Chinese Red...

 

...the MTH offering is correct for one and only one locomotive and there was no calf.

 

Rusty

Certainly a valid enough reason for a model to be made, even if there was only one prototype for the model.  Looks like one heck of an attractive engine to me.

There was ONE and ONLY ONE Pennsylvania S2 Turbine and it has been done a zillion times by three manufacturers. True, 3rd Rail only did the one number, but MTH did two road numbers in the Rail King.

 

Bottom line is, if it's that big a deal, don't buy it or buy it and re-paint it. The Rail King line isn't necessarily set up around prototype fidelity. Sometimes they nail it; sometimes they don't.

Not a diesel guy as such, not a GM/EMD guy either, not a Burlington/CBQ/subsidiary fan to any degree, not a fan of lotsa color (I actually like PC black), but that sure is a handsome red switcher above. I sort of want one.

 

Pretty, clean, red, diesel, EMD, MTH - NOT what railroading generally is about around my layout, but, still...

 

Congratulations to MTH on the apparently accurate research.

 

I have read all the replies, more to come I am sure. 

 

I want to first of all state that most ALL of my engines are MTH, I love them, just wish more were lettered for the Q. I do know that I am in the minority being a Q modeler, I also do GN.

 

I also know that these are "toys" that are here to help represent the real thing, and to give us joy and pleasure in either collecting or running trains. That not every detail can be duplicated without driving up costs and that as long as it (the model) is a close representation of a specific railroad, that in most cases it will appeal to the model collector or hobbyist.

 

That being said, a Burlington NW2 in red may appeal to a hand full, just as many as a UP turbine painted in BNSF colors would.

 

But what is missing is the fact that MTH will loose a LOT of sales because of this. I really don't want to pay a couple hundred dollars on an engine such as this, and then have to repaint it, by the way Microscale does not make decals for a Q switch engine. 

 

And as someone else on the forum said, with very little sales MTH will reconsider any other diesel in Q paint.

 

I really didn't want to drag this out or bash MTH, as I said, I love their products, but just wish they would have done a better job of research on this engine. Especially with all the historical societies that cover almost every railroad.

 

RAY

 

 

 

 

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