MTH Premier B&O Heavy Pacific

I have the Big 4 version. I agree, very well done by MTH. Paint and detail are superb. I am not sure why they call them Heavies, they appear to be USRA Lights but no matter they are good looking engines.

Pete

This locomotive bears little resemblance to the actual President Washington.

The B&O class "P" pacifics did not have a center mounted headlight.  The bell mounting is all wrong as are many other details.  Another example of MTH building one generic locomotive (a heavy pacific) and then painting it in whatever colors/railroad that will get you to spend your money.  Shameless. 

Norton posted:

I have the Big 4 version. I agree, very well done by MTH. Paint and detail are superb. I am not sure why they call them Heavies, they appear to be USRA Lights but no matter they are good looking engines.

Pete

I think they call it that due to the tender 

Lehigh Valley Railroad posted:

Norton posted:

I have the Big 4 version. I agree, very well done by MTH. Paint and detail are superb. I am not sure why they call them Heavies, they appear to be USRA Lights but no matter they are good looking engines.

Pete

I think they call it that due to the tender 

Of course, the tender has nothing to do with the USRA "Heavy" and "Light" designation, but who knows what MTH is thinking? (Well, sales, for one thing...boy, nothing gets past me!) These are indeed not USRA Heavies, but MTH uses them to stand in for all kinds of things (NYC K-5, SOU Ps-4, GM&O ex-Alton P-16, ATSF 13XX class, B&O, others), and they are so handsome that a lot of use just like them. If the intended prototype was USRA DNA-derived (some were), the match is close enough (Ps-4, for example).

They are well-done USRA Lights, but I still have the SOU Ps-4 version and love it.

MTH must have amortized the tooling on this sweetie a long time ago. Solid piece.

BTW - that B&O version above is indeed beautiful. Now, about the Lionel too-long-Pacific blue version....another time, perhaps.

I hate the color. Lima Bean Green, YUCK!

Ralph M posted:

The B&O class "P" pacifics did not have a center mounted headlight. 

Ummm:

Rusty

Rusty Traque posted:

Ralph M posted:

The B&O class "P" pacifics did not have a center mounted headlight. 

Ummm:

Rusty

Isn't this (more or less) what the Mantua/Tyco Pacific in HO was based on?

Here's Akane's offering from 1961:

Mark in Oregon

Strummer posted:

Rusty Traque posted:

Ralph M posted:

The B&O class "P" pacifics did not have a center mounted headlight. 

Ummm:

Rusty

Isn't this (more or less) what the Mantua/Tyco Pacific in HO was based on?

 

Mark in Oregon

Yep:

Ralph M posted:

Another example of MTH building one generic locomotive (a heavy pacific) and then painting it in whatever colors/railroad that will get you to spend your money.  Shameless. 

And just like MTH, they shamelessly  lettered it for other railroads to get HOer's to part with their cash:

Even Broadway Limited today sells (at $369.99 a pop) their HO USRA Heavy and Light Pacific's in roadnames that didn't own them.   Seems to work pretty well for them.  It's called business.

Rusty

I have both the President Washington and the blue 5307 along with matching coaches for each. Great locomotives! There is some evidence for the centered headlight on the green engines in the form of this postcard of the Capitol Limited.