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MTH Railking Husky Stack in S Scale

MH Martin HOGR Forum Member

I was measuring one of my o-gauge MTH Railking husky stacks last  night and realized that their scale is actually smaller than 1/64, depending on how you measure.  At least the length is.  The height and width are at least slightly larger than 1/64.

 

This makes me wonder, would it be possible to take O-gauge Railking husky stacks and put s-gauge trucks and run it with one of the newer s-Scale modern locos?  I think the width would be too much, but maybe it would look good.

 

Has anyone tried this or investigated doing it?

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Kenny PalmerKenny PalmerOGR Forum Member

Please, no "close but not" attempts.  DPH currently markets a scale husky stack.  If MTH is to produce such a car I hope they will maintain their stated commitment to carry on the attention to scale models that they inherited from SHS.  Lionel has made this mistake before and paid for it in lost sales.  Give MTH a chance to make good and the modelers will follow.

MH Martin HOGR Forum Member
Umm, isn't  "close but not" an apt summary of the history of high-rail model trains?  Including the current MTH and Lionel catalogs?
 
I thought that's as good as it gets in this hobby.
 
 
Originally Posted by Kenny Palmer:

Please, no "close but not" attempts.  DPH currently markets a scale husky stack.  If MTH is to produce such a car I hope they will maintain their stated commitment to carry on the attention to scale models that they inherited from SHS.  Lionel has made this mistake before and paid for it in lost sales.  Give MTH a chance to make good and the modelers will follow.

 

RT Rusty TraqueOGR Forum Member
Originally Posted by Martin H:
Umm, isn't  "close but not" an apt summary of the history of high-rail model trains?  Including the current MTH and Lionel catalogs?
 
I thought that's as good as it gets in this hobby.
 
 
Originally Posted by Kenny Palmer:

Please, no "close but not" attempts.  DPH currently markets a scale husky stack.  If MTH is to produce such a car I hope they will maintain their stated commitment to carry on the attention to scale models that they inherited from SHS.  Lionel has made this mistake before and paid for it in lost sales.  Give MTH a chance to make good and the modelers will follow.

 

"Close enough" is a lot closer than it was 20-30 years ago.

 

Given the amout of time, money and effort that both Lionel and MTH have put forth to "scalify" their products over the years, it would likely be a step backwards to just put S gauge trucks on undersized O gauge products and try to sell to what hopefully will become an expanding market.

 

Rusty

Greg ElemsGreg ElemsOGR Forum Member

Seems to me the gist of the post was conversion to S.  Not would MTH do it for sale as an S car. 

 

I'm not familiar with the car you are speaking of.  As an off hand guide, the car should be as close to a scale 10’ wide.  Also if you put Flyer trucks under it, it might work and look just fine.  If it’s too tall then scale trucks probably might not work.  Without getting into specific details and makes there are a lot of different styles of well cars for double stacks out there running on today's railroads. 

 

Greg     

MH Martin HOGR Forum Member
Yes, I was talking about a hobbyist converting a car that he already had.  I was not originally suggesting that MTH should crank it out with different trucks and label it as "S Scale".
 
Unfortunately, though the length would be close, the width would be 12ft.  Its going to look fat on the rails, but maybe not too noticeable?
 
I may try it just for fun to see what it looks like.
 
 
Originally Posted by Greg Elems:

Seems to me the gist of the post was conversion to S.  Not would MTH do it for sale as an S car. 

 

I'm not familiar with the car you are speaking of.  As an off hand guide, the car should be as close to a scale 10’ wide.  Also if you put Flyer trucks under it, it might work and look just fine.  If it’s too tall then scale trucks probably might not work.  Without getting into specific details and makes there are a lot of different styles of well cars for double stacks out there running on today's railroads. 

 

Greg     

 

Kenny PalmerKenny PalmerOGR Forum Member

My apologies to Martin.  I did misinterpret his original post.

 

Modelers should do whatever floats their boat (er runs their trains).  Kit bashing has been around forever and if it pleases you then you should go for it.

 

I truly was recalling how big L slapped AF trucks on some of their O gauge cars and they really looked poor.  Especially when another manufacturer came out with a true S version.  Again my apologies.

 

Kenny Palmer

 

MH Martin HOGR Forum Member
I'm still going to experiment with this.  I have the Railking cars and I bought some high-rail s-scale trucks to put on it. 
 
But I'm working on other projects for now.  I'll post results when I get them, but I think they will be a good length but too fat and tall on the rail.
 
 
Originally Posted by Swafford:

Good Day Martin,

 

Any more thoughts about a S Scale Husky Stack car? Intermodal trains are my favorite!

 

Regards,

Frank

SwaffordSwaffordOGR Forum Member
Good Day Casey,
 
Can you please post some pictures of your Husky Stack cars?
 
Regards,
Frank
 
Originally Posted by Quick Casey:
My S Scale America Husky Stack cars From Des Plaines Hobbies have Hi Rail trucks and couplers from the factory. They look great. 
 
Originally Posted by Kenny Palmer:

Please, no "close but not" attempts.  DPH currently markets a scale husky stack.

 

Kenny PalmerKenny PalmerOGR Forum Member
Casey, thanks for helping clarify my comment.  I should have included the hi-rail reference.  As Don Thompson of the former SHS pointed out many times and Ron of DPH also, it is the hi-rail purchaser that allows them to offer a scale model.  That's what I hope to see more of from Lionel and MTH, scale fidelity.  This includes the Flyer purists because ACG in Flyer's hey day tried to keep very close to scale size.
 
Regards,
Kenny
 
Originally Posted by Quick Casey:
My S Scale America Husky Stack cars From Des Plaines Hobbies have Hi Rail trucks and couplers from the factory. They look great. 
 
Originally Posted by Kenny Palmer:

Please, no "close but not" attempts.  DPH currently markets a scale husky stack.

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