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Good question - I would expect so as mainline clearances have been improved to handle double stack trains on the former Middle and Pittsburgh divisions.  The old double track tunnels at Gallitzin and Spruce are now single track with lower floors.  Passenger platforms and shelters (like the one on the super-elevated curve at Tyrone, PA) had clearance issues - but they're mostly gone.  Large locomotives like the big S2 steam turbine made a limited number of test runs over the Middle and Pittsburgh divisions but were restricted as to which of the 4 tracks they could run on. Perhaps an NS employee can shed some light for us on any current clearance issues on NS main lines in central PA.

 

Ed Rappe

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Originally Posted by Rusty Traque:
Originally Posted by breezinup:
 

Actually, the U-505 was brought through the Great Lakes.

 

Santa Fe Northern 2903 sat outside next to the U-505 for many years, there's still plenty of metal on her boiler.

 Rusty

 

You're right - up the Great Lakes (must have been just after the St. Lawrence Seaway was completed). (The submarines built for the US Navy in Manitowoc, Wisconsin, during WWII were taken down the Illinois River to the Mississippi and on down to the Gulf of Mexico).

 

I suppose with regard to steam engines, it depends a good deal on the upkeep of the paint as to amount of resistance to weathering effects.

Originally Posted by Keystoned Ed:
Good question - I would expect so as mainline clearances have been improved to handle double stack trains on the former Middle and Pittsburgh divisions.  The old double track tunnels at Gallitzin and Spruce are now single track with lower floors.  Passenger platforms and shelters (like the one on the super-elevated curve at Tyrone, PA) had clearance issues - but they're mostly gone.

It's not the tunnels that will pose clearance problems for 611. She is only a few inches taller than the 765. And if they run double-stacks through the tunnels, there is PLENTY of room for 611 in there!

 

The clearance issue for 611 is that big alligator crosshead. When 611 was in Chicago back in the day, the crosshead hit the sides of several of the small deck girder bridges. And I don't think much has changed there.

Last edited by Rich Melvin
Originally Posted by RickO:

.......Thanks for the updates, photos and links Chris!

Yes, all the information is much appreciated, Chris! I didn't have much hope of ever seeing this great engine run, and then the rebuild plans were announced, so this has been great fun following the adventure. I've wanted to see this engine running since I was a kid looking at pictures of it in the '50s, and never had a chance before.

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They have said on the F/B page that they are doing all the work outside that requires the lift and the media blasting ect as it's easier for them.  The engine and tender are going to be separated soon and they will move both indoors soon.  All of the parts that have been removed thus far such as the jacket,skirting & air pumps and so on are stored inside.

Originally Posted by laidoff'sdad:

I am new to the forum. Been a follower for awhile.

 

Planning a vacation to NC in Sept. Was wondering how close one can get to the 611 when visiting the Spencer museum. I know they have week-end tours but we won't be able to make it then. I know about the viewing area in the RH but was hoping to get closer.  

 

Bob

 

If it were me, I would phone the Spencer Museum and explain your situation, and see how they will accommodate you.

Originally Posted by laidoff'sdad:

I am new to the forum. Been a follower for awhile.

 

Planning a vacation to NC in Sept. Was wondering how close one can get to the 611 when visiting the Spencer museum. I know they have week-end tours but we won't be able to make it then. I know about the viewing area in the RH but was hoping to get closer.  

How close do you need to get? The viewing area is pretty good.

Originally Posted by laidoff'sdad:

Thanks HW, I spoke to LeAnne at the museum. She told me that we would have to stay in the viewing area and take pics. from there.

A couple of pics last weekend from two different viewing points.   BUT during the tours that weekend people were taken in right up to 611.

 

 

Ron

Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:
Originally Posted by Keystoned Ed:
Good question - I would expect so as mainline clearances have been improved to handle double stack trains on the former Middle and Pittsburgh divisions.  The old double track tunnels at Gallitzin and Spruce are now single track with lower floors.  Passenger platforms and shelters (like the one on the super-elevated curve at Tyrone, PA) had clearance issues - but they're mostly gone.

It's not the tunnels that will pose clearance problems for 611. She is only a few inches taller than the 765. And if they run double-stacks through the tunnels, there is PLENTY of room for 611 in there!

 

The clearance issue for 611 is that big alligator crosshead. When 611 was in Chicago back in the day, the crosshead hit the sides of several of the small deck girder bridges. And I don't think much has changed there.

When PRR tested the 610, she had various strike points in the Chicago Terminal area.

I'd like to thank Chris (CWEX) for going to the trouble to keep us informed on the progress of 611.

 

The many pictures provide us a rare view of the "innards" of a steam engine boiler. And these same pictures certainly show the aggressive effort and resulting progress being made by the restoration crew.

 

Thank you!

Thanks Chris.  I sure am pleased to see our donations to the 611 fund being well spent.   Next I'll order a new set of Virginia license plates with 611's  image on them -  our state locomotive.  For years Virginia is for Lovers was our tourist slogan.  They'll have to change that in 2015 to Virginia is for Steam Rail Fanning

 

Ed Rappe

 

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