Need suggestions regarding putting the correct pilot on a Lionel E-7

PRRMiddleDivisionOGR Forum Member

I have a Lionel PRR E-7. You can tell that it is really an E-6 they used a die insert to modify the nose to reduce the sloped angle of the nose which isn't shaped quite right. Unfortunately, they used an E-6 pilot, so the angle of the front of the pilot is steeper than that of the nose which makes it look weird. I would like to change it, using perhaps a pilot from the Lionel F-3/7, or perhaps from their new E-8. What part would you suggest, and is the pattern of the mounting holes the same as on the E-7, or would it be necessary to drill new holes in the replacement pilot. Do you have a part number? Has anyone else tried this before. And the replacement pilot need not be a Lionel, if someone can suggest an easy conversion using a pilot say from Atlas, MTH, or Williams.

Thanks to anyone who can help

12/12/1410:45 AM

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Hot WaterOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

Originally Posted by PRRMiddleDivision:

And the replacement pilot need not be a Lionel, if someone can suggest an easy conversion using a pilot say from Atlas, MTH, or Williams.

Thanks to anyone who can help

P & D Hobbyshop has various "F" & "E" unit pilots. Check them out.

12/12/1410:56 AM

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PingmanOGR Forum Member

+1 on P&D. Suggestion: go to their website and when you have identified possible pilots you are interested in, phone and talk to Pat to get his insight. Regrettably, P&D does not post pictures for many of their offerings which makes it even more necessary to talk to Pat IMHO; particularly as it relates to attaching the pilot.

Also, look at pictures of F and E units to consider what alternative pilots may work for you before you call. Good luck.

12/12/1411:01 AM

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rex desiletsOGR Forum Member

I have a Lionel PRR E-7.

Well, there is no fixing this. Sell it and buy a 3rdRail/GGD set.

12/12/1411:23 AM

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Hot WaterOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

Originally Posted by rex desilets:

I have a Lionel PRR E-7.

Well, there is no fixing this. Sell it and buy a 3rdRail/GGD set.

I'll second THIS suggestion!

12/12/1411:27 AM

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CentralFan1976OGR Forum Member

If this is your stock piece:

Then I bet this one might fit:

Or this... From a Tuscan PRR unit:

or green:

If you want to change to a P&D Passenger pilot, fixed, check out this thread:

https://ogrforum.com/t...86#38737271691294086

Thanks,

- Mario

12/12/1411:34 AM

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PRRMiddleDivisionOGR Forum Member

Mario,

I think your suggestions are right on target, and I will see if Lionel has the Green version in stock.

With regard to the GGD E-7's...I do own a set of those, and as with the Lionel version, they too have issues.

Thanks to all.

12/12/1412:39 PM

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CentralFan1976OGR Forum Member

Glad I could help... Make sure you post before and after pics!

Merry Christmas!

Thanks,

- Mario

12/12/1412:44 PM

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PRRronbhOGR Forum Member

Neal, As I recall Pennsy E7s were delivered with three or four (5900 &5901) different pilot shapes. Looking through "Pennsylvania Railroad Diesel Locomotive Pictorial" Volume Seven illustrates these.

Ron

12/12/141:23 PM

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