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I'm just the process of installing one of these; also I think that they have been incorporated in some recent 3rd Rail models.

 

I think that the sound is considerably improved but it really depends in part on what speaker and speaker enclosure you are using. The ones supplied by ERR are pretty good for the cost but I am experimenting with others.

 

The static/background noise is at least reduced although to my ear I can still detect some in diesel sounds.

I've installed a number of them, the sounds are much better.  The background noise is pretty much gone, and the range of sounds is better.  The package is much more compact, which allows sound in a lot more small motorized units.  I put a Cruise Commander and the RS Commander in an RMT Beep, I couldn't do that with the old RS Commander.

 

As stated, the speaker and enclosure is all important for any sound board, including this one.

 

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

I've installed a number of them, the sounds are much better.  The background noise is pretty much gone, and the range of sounds is better.  The package is much more compact, which allows sound in a lot more small motorized units.  I put a Cruise Commander and the RS Commander in an RMT Beep, I couldn't do that with the old RS Commander.

 

As stated, the speaker and enclosure is all important for any sound board, including this one.

 

John, does this board raise sound quality in my RS4 NKP Berk #779 with some background static to near RS5?

Does it add more steam engine sounds then original RS4?

Joe

I asked this question once before, but the boards were still new and nobody knew for sure.

 

My biggest complaint with RS5 is that you have no control over the whistle (not sure about the horn in diesels).  When you pull down the CAB2's whistle slider, sometime you get a short whistle, other times a very long one.  Great sound, but you can't do forward/ back/ crossing signals.

 

A while back a forum member did a video of their new 3rd Rail engine (yes, I have one but its packed away).  In the video it looked like they did have control over the whistle, varying the sound with the slider.  It was very short, so I wasn't sure.

 

I have one conventional engine left to upgrade (a 3rd Rail Q1), and I'm trying to decide which upgrade system to use.  Can one of you that has a steam engine ungraded with one of the new ERR boards do a check and see how the whistle works. That would be great. Thanks.

 

Ron

CAPPilot, there must have been something else going on, because every single Railsounds product I've worked on, from Railsounds II in the early 90's, to RS5 to the latest Legacy sound system provides user control over the duration over the length of the horn or whistle blow. This is true for conventional and command operation. There are cases, for instance dirty track or bad comm reception, that can cause an individual sustaining blow to re-trigger midstream. But that would indicate something's not right, it is not the intended operation of the system.
 
The ERR boards also provide control over whistle duration.
 
 
Originally Posted by CAPPilot:

I asked this question once before, but the boards were still new and nobody knew for sure.

 

My biggest complaint with RS5 is that you have no control over the whistle (not sure about the horn in diesels).  When you pull down the CAB2's whistle slider, sometime you get a short whistle, other times a very long one.  Great sound, but you can't do forward/ back/ crossing signals.

 

A while back a forum member did a video of their new 3rd Rail engine (yes, I have one but its packed away).  In the video it looked like they did have control over the whistle, varying the sound with the slider.  It was very short, so I wasn't sure.

 

I have one conventional engine left to upgrade (a 3rd Rail Q1), and I'm trying to decide which upgrade system to use.  Can one of you that has a steam engine ungraded with one of the new ERR boards do a check and see how the whistle works. That would be great. Thanks.

 

Ron

 

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

Right Rudy, on Legacy locomotives I can get really short blasts, they are truly as short as the lever actuation. 

 

It's just TMCC that has the lower limit in how short the horn sound can be.  I'm presuming from looking at the code in the ERR conventional whistle board (wonder when they'll list that)  that it's the debounce of the whistle command.

Yes, John,  the LEGACY and TMCC command spec is the right place to look. The original TMCC HORN1 command has no "off", just an "on." So the sound system must wait for an absence of horn triggers to time-out. The quilling whistle, in contrast, uses a whistle with intensity=0 to explicitly indicate "off," which is why it provides superior short whistle blows. Works the same way on CAB-1L and CAB2, although the physical controls obviously differ.

I guess now that the Legacy commands have been released, I could actually find that out by reading that document!   I figured there must be more positive control for Legacy, a lot of the functions are more "crisp".  The other thing I notice is that Legacy stops the brake sounds the instant the locomotive comes to a complete stop, where the RailSounds boards typically have the sounds run on for some period after the stop.

 

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