New Lionel Hybrid Locomotive release - What are your thoughts - feedback- what should the next one be?

Just my opinion but, maybe we should wait awhile to see how well the new "hybrid" models hold up and performs in extensive running with fair sized freight trains, before rushing into the next version.  

Hot Water posted:

Just my opinion but, maybe we should wait awhile to see how well the new "hybrid" models hold up and performs in extensive running with fair sized freight trains, before rushing into the next version.  

The foundation of the Hybrid concept being a proven drivetrain and chassis from a already produced diecast series.  I say they have already been proven for operation overtime.

Bring on more Hybrids, now!

The next one...  Give me a Northern...  GN?

Looks FABULOUS J Daddy! Thank you for posting this beauty!!

My vote is for A Brass Hybrid PRR Q2 4-4-6-4!

This is the one I would vote for (NYC H10b) but if Lionel doesn't do one I will do it myself.

I got tired of waiting so have started to 3 rail this.

Pete

Since Northerns, Mikados and Pacifics have been mentioned I would buy the following:
1. NP Class A3 (coal), SP&S Class E1 (oil) 4-8-4, especially SP&S #700 
2. NP Class W3 2-8-2 
3. GN Class H7 4-6-2 (corrected)

(Some of the above have been done in brass but they are impossible to find, sell near MSRP and don't have modern sound systems.)

The GN Man posted:

Since Northerns, Mikados and Pacifics have been mentioned I would buy the following:
1. NP Class A3 (coal), SP&S Class E1 (oil) 4-8-4, especially SP&S #700 

Already produced by Sunset/3rd Rail, some years ago. Watch eBay for them.

2. NP Class W3 2-8-2 

Excellent choice. But probably Sunset/3rd Rail would be the only manufacturer to offer this.

3. GN Class H7 4-6-4

Never knew that the GN had any 4-6-4 locomotives.

(Some of the above have been done in brass but they are impossible to find, sell near MSRP and don't have modern sound systems.)

I am very happy with my ATSF Hybrid!!!  Lionel has taken their smoke output to the next level finally.  My AC9 and this Hybrid are the best smokers I have.  The detail is excellent.  The drive system is stout and of course Legacy offers the best operation!  

The sound is is a bit of a let down.  It is a bit tinny or lacks bass.  I have to turn the volume pot down, because if it is turned up the speakers crackle, especially when the whistle is full blast.  

I think it should have a bell chord, it has a whistle chord which I really like.  Speaking of the whistle.  I really like that the AC9 (so too does the 2-10-10-2) emits smoke directly from the whistle.  The Hybrid, like the majority of Legacy engines sends it out of a hole in the boiler.  That is a bit of a bummer, but to find fault with this great engine you really have to pick knits because overall it is impressive.

Next on my Hybrid wish list an ATSF 2-10-4 5000 series.  Lionel has the 2-10-4 chassis, so bring on Madame Queen!

Norton posted:

This is the one I would vote for (NYC H10b) but if Lionel doesn't do one I will do it myself.

I got tired of waiting so have started to 3 rail this.

Pete

I'd be on board too for a H10 mike but with the just released NYC light mikado, I wouldn't think this model would be in the cards.

That Kadee coupler upgrade looks great TT4T.

Has anyone popped the lid off of the tender to see how the speaker is packaged?  Maybe adding a fatboy with a housing baffle is the solution for the sound.

I am going to add a bell cord to mine. This would have been a GREAT candidate for the operating swinging bell.

I would really like to see a Northern Pacific Class A4 made...

superwarp1 posted:

I'd be on board too for a H10 mike but with the just released NYC light mikado, I wouldn't think this model would be in the cards.

That was the first thing that came to mind when Lionel announced the Santa Fe engine. Unlikely but that would be my preference. I'll see how the K5 project goes. I have to do some research to try and figure out what three rail chassis would be closest to the Sunset 2 rail engine. This would include MTH engines as well.

Pete

J Daddy posted:

 

I would really like to see a Northern Pacific Class A4 made...

Already has been, by Sunset/3rd Rail. Both in 3-Rail and in 2-Rail, plus the other versions of the NP A Class Northerns (including the SP&S oil fired #700).

Edit: I have #2685, as I preferred the A-5 Class version.

daddy,

3rd rail's NP A-4 if very nice.

Hot Water posted:

J Daddy posted:

 

I would really like to see a Northern Pacific Class A4 made...

Already has been, by Sunset/3rd Rail. Both in 3-Rail and in 2-Rail, plus the other versions of the NP A Class Northerns (including the SP&S oil fired #700).

Edit: I have #2685, as I preferred the A-5 Class version.

Yes, but try to find them now, and to have them in 3rail with a Lionel Chassis and with Legacy would be ideal....

samparfitt posted:

daddy,

3rd rail's NP A-4 if very nice.

Absolutely beautiful.   Thank you!

Is that a Z-5 hiding behind it?

J Daddy posted:

Hot Water posted:

J Daddy posted:

 

I would really like to see a Northern Pacific Class A4 made...

Already has been, by Sunset/3rd Rail. Both in 3-Rail and in 2-Rail, plus the other versions of the NP A Class Northerns (including the SP&S oil fired #700).

Edit: I have #2685, as I preferred the A-5 Class version.

Yes, but try to find them now, and to have them in 3rail with a Lionel Chassis and with Legacy would be ideal....

Well, to each his own but, I bet Lionel would price such a "rare" model well over $1700, which I would NOT consider "ideal"!

And thus that is the point of the Hybrid. Keep prices down and release more scale detailed locomotives. Say around 1,200 to 1,500... we will only see.

It's been awhile since I bought my 3rd rail NP A-4 (The pictures I took say 3-13-2015).  Got it used for $750 but in excellent condition.

I pulled the tender shell to unplug the electro coupler.  The speakers are housed in the customary baffle system.  I am not sure why the sound is below par for Lionel.  I have not checked to see if the parts diagram is posted to see what speakers they used.  

@ T4TT - A Madame Queen 2-10-4 would be AMAZING! I would certainly purchase one!

Very happy with mine. A New Haven Hudson ? A J3 Hudson with all the bells/whistles. I know ! Too many Hudsons.

With regard to the 3222, should the sun shades or visors above the windows of the cab be a shade of tan?  I have seen photos of ATSF engines where they looked lighter than the rest of the cab.  Just curious.

thanks

I say Lionel should do the USRA 2-10-2 locos. It's a bunch of popular roadname between "Heavy" and " light" models!

If not, the PRR 2-8-8-0!

Or the K5 4-6-2!

T4TT posted:

With regard to the 3222, should the sun shades or visors above the windows of the cab be a shade of tan?  I have seen photos of ATSF engines where they looked lighter than the rest of the cab.  Just curious.

thanks

Well, those were indeed canvas, so some sort of "tan" color would be appropriate. That said, remember that those canvas "sun shades" would have gotten pretty well faded by the sun, so even a lighter shad could be appropriate.

Ryan Kunkle and I had a nice conversation about the brass hybrid project this afternoon while recording the catalog show. You can tune in next Tuesday at Notch6.com to hear his comments about the future of the line including a hint about the next model coming in this line. 

The detail of this engine looks awesome and I'm sure the Legacy sounds are equally awesome. I have been dreaming for years now that I would see a Milwaukee Road 2-6-6-2 Mallet offered. I know Lionel has a 2-6-6-2 chassis available as they have already made one. Soooooo, I have my fingers crossed that either 3RD Rail and/or now Lionel just might pull the cord and release one. I guy can hope right?  

Love the idea of a hybrid model. Would buy one of these if it were a locomotive type I was interested in. Some Southern Railway steamers would make me a happy guy (ie a correct 630 or 4501).

They need to do a true scale highly detailed nyc  hudson with smokeing whistle . Like the one 3rd rail made a few years ago.  

Another Hudson?  There is a lack of Hudsons in the 3R O world?

Hey J DADDY, great topic, and it’s a real beauty, a show stopper at York in April of 2017. I wonder if there will be another Brass/Hybrid Offerring this April. I have not ran mine much yet, however will tomorrow when several of my friends come to my home to tryout the new Shay, and the new CSXT NW2, and the TinPlate inspired S2 Set...Wow, these new trains are sure fun to run....

Hi Leapinlarry, I have a Millhouse TT also.  I like how you treated the floor of yours.  How did you scenic that?  Thank you!

palallin posted:

Another Hudson?  There is a lack of Hudsons in the 3R O world?

Let them continue to re-release NYC Hudsons, that way they don't ruin other road names with endless reruns!

I love the ideas you guys posted for new Hybrids.  I love the NP northern.

We need these great engines with legacy and great sounds...

The fact that they only do them one time, and give you a build number, I find this really attractive...

So after watching the Notch 6 pod cast Ryan revealed the New Hybrid locomotive will be released in Volume 2 and it will be a locomotive EAST of the Mississippi... So what could it be ? 

J Daddy posted:

So after watching the Notch 6 pod cast Ryan revealed the New Hybrid locomotive will be released in Volume 2 and it will be a locomotive EAST of the Mississippi... So what could it be ? 

Pretty please do Southern 4501. Or 630. Neither have ever been accurately done in O scale.

A New York Central H-10 Mikado with the later lettering and road number,please

Marry the Williams Mikado mechanism with that gorgeous USH H10.  Or I may do it for you if you let me keep the leftover pieces.  Easy stuff.  Cheaper than new  hybrid.

Oh, I dunno...a Missouri-Kansas-Texas 43% pacific and appropriate tender, maybe?

Norton posted:

This is the one I would vote for (NYC H10b) but if Lionel doesn't do one I will do it myself.

I got tired of waiting so have started to 3 rail this.

Pete

Pete, I'd be down for one