Skip to main content

As have others, I just received the long-awaited Lionel State of Maine PS-1 Boxcar.  I don't know this railroad well, but based on photos posted in another thread, I'm wondering whether the red on the Lionel car is accurate.  To my eye, both the catalog and the posted photo of the real thing (thanks to Galo 3d for the pic) show a red that is noticeably darker than the Lionel car (thanks to Nvisich for the pic).   If you know what the correct color should be and have seen the Lionel car, what do you think?  Thanks.

 

 

27876 State of Maine

State of Maine Boxcar

127876 Catalog Pic

Attachments

Images (3)
  • 27876 State of Maine
  • State of Maine Boxcar
  • 127876 Catalog Pic
Last edited by Chris Dunn
Original Post

Replies sorted oldest to newest

 

Color is subjective.  It depends on lighting, (daylight, fluorescent, incandescent, CFL, etc,)  blue sky, cloudy sky, how the paint is applied applied, the type of material it's been applied to, whether or not there's primer underneath and probably several other factors.

 

Case in point...

Same model locomotives, different lighting, also different cameras.

 

Cool white CFL:

rCP MKT-SLSF E 8107A,107C,

 

 

Daylight CFL:

rE8 0730110 07

 

 

Prototype photo:

EMD E7 MKT TS 101A

 

Also, you could paint the car with the exact paint the prototype used and it would look different than the prototype photo's.

 

Rusty

Attachments

Images (3)
  • rE8 0730110 07
  • rCP MKT-SLSF E 8107A,107C,
  • EMD E7 MKT TS 101A
Last edited by Rusty Traque

Another thing to bear in mind is that the photograph of the model looks as though it is lit by a rather close flashgun. This will tend to bleach the colours a little. Also, red is often a difficult colour for digital cameras to reproduce accurately. 

 

But, having said all that, it looks fine to me. 

Car colors depend on the time frame the photo was taken.

Even restored museum cars can be a shade off.

Not many old photos taken of cars that were newly painted back then.

Old photos still around today have faded as well.

 

Since we didn’t see these old style pristine cars in real life, I’m not sure why manufactures continue to sell them that way. This relates to the posted question.

Every time I open a new box car, I say, hmmm, never seen one look like that.

So I'm not sure why anyone is concerned about the colors.

 

The photo below represents the end of days (mid 1970’s) for this car.

Notice the faded sky blue toward the upper areas caused by the elements.

 

Never go by a catalog photo. They are generally incorrect.

 

 

 

In addition to lighting of the photo, there is also a lot of color variation with computer screens, at least the home use and laptop types. It's very hard to comment on color accuracy, especially in finer tones, by looking at a typical computer screen. You really have to look at the real thing to judge accurately. All this said, at least looking at the original photo on my computer screen, the red does look a bit too light to my eyes.

Originally Posted by SIRT:

.....Since we didn’t see these old style pristine cars in real life......

 

 

 

Some people were just born too late to see them.  

 

A surprising number of boxcars in the 40s and 50s had paint that was in very good condition, some even with a nice sheen. There are many You Tube videos of films shot in this era that show some very clean cars mixed into most consists.

 

I do not want to take anything away from the artistry required to produce the beautiful weathering jobs like Steve (SIRT) does on a regular basis, but there isn't anything wrong with a few bright shiny ones in a train of those eras. From the mid to late 60s and 70s on, of course, it was a different story.

 

Jim

 

boxcarB

Attachments

Images (1)
  • boxcarB
Post
×
×
×
×
Link copied to your clipboard.
×
×