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The 'Gamers' at our store (LHS) brought this to our attention.  Pretty cool stuff.  VERY easy to use...and re-use!  Watch the video!

 

http://www.coolminiornot.com/s...sc/instant-mold.html

 

I have been building some old General Models and All-Nation car kits.  Picked them up on the internet auctions and at local train shows.  In some cases one of the old diecast parts is missing.  Case in point: The last kit was a reefer.  It was supposed to have two of the vertical door latch castings...only one was in the kit. 

 

No problem, I thought.  I'll try the 'gamers' new stuff.  I won't bore you with the various attempts/trials.  But I finally found a technique that works like a charm.  I built a small open top box ( four walls and a bottom) of styrene that would hold enough of the insta-mold stuff to completely cover the part.  The wall height of the box is slightly less that the thickness of the block of insta-mold you're working with.

 

Place the part on a flat metal surface...I used some tool-makers gage blocks I had that were ground to a polished finish.  Heat the insta-mold for two minutes in a pan of water brought to at least 170 degrees F.  As the video shows, this will make the insta-mold really soft...like well-chewed bubblegum.  Now, press the insta-mold into the styrene box, and immediately invert the box/compound over the part sitting on the metal plate, and press down firmly/evenly.  Hold it there...or put some weight on the box...for a few minutes to allow the insta-mold to cool.  Lift the mold/box from the plate...the part will be in the mold compound.  When the mold is cool to the touch, peel it from the box, flex it lightly to ease the part from the mold, then re-insert the mold back into the box.  Putting the mold back into the box will give it firm/level support for the next step---casting.  You're now ready to make a clone!!

 

The gamers like to use JB Weld to make their duplicates...tough stuff, workable, durable.  Mix some up, dab it along the mold cavity until the mold is filled (self-leveling).  Let it stand for 24 hours.  Remove the part.  Voila!

 

It works best, of course, if the part you're duplicating has one flat surface and no undercut areas that will cause the mold compound to 'lock' the part.  Besides the reefer door latch, the reefer door hinges would be good candidates.  I'm sure that other rolling stock and scenery uses can come to mind.

 

So, for what it's worth, there's something else to try.  And it's totally re-usable, too!!  Keeping the water at temperature, I was able to go through about 4-5 trials in 15 minutes time using the same blob of compound, trying different techniques, until the one described above gave the best results.

 

Thought you might like to know about something new....

 

KD 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Lee Willis:

Thank you very much!   I was unaware of this product, but through the wonder of Amazon's one-click shopping a pack will be here Tuesday for me to experiment with.  This looks to be exactly what I need for some of my scratchbuilding work. 

 

Thank you!

Lee...

 

Just extricated some reefer door latches from the mold...incredible!

 

Still a bit on the learning curve.  Some of the parts have evidence of a small air bubble or two having been trapped as the JB Weld set up.  This time I have spent more time prodding the just-mixed weld material into the mold cavity.  We'll see if that helps keep bubble spots from occuring. 

 

It's not a biggie, anyway.  I added a dot of fresh JB to the bubble cavity.  When it's fully cured hard, a couple of swipes of the jewelers file or slices with a fresh #11 blade should take care of that and salvage the part.

 

This is fun!  I love trying new tools, techniques, and materials like this, too!!

 

You know what that reusable mold material reminds me of...low temp hot glue gun sticks, but rectangled shaped.

I've used the alumilite mold putty that's 2 parts...kneed it together and press, but this stuff I've used is not reusable.

Matter of fact, I really kneed to copy a 1/50 mack AC nose off of a diecast truck for an On30 switcher project that's coming up...

Thank you for the link. The mold making material looks like it could be very useful but I've found two part liquid resin better than epoxies like JB Weld or the compound used in the video. The sword shown in the video could have been made by pouring the resin into the same mold with little trimming required afterward.

 

This post war car door was cast into a mold with only the side edge open. Only the side edge had to be trimmed off.

 

 

 

 

 

Pete

Originally Posted by pennsyk4:

It will never replace rubber molds and resin for the typical O scale building and structure applications. But looks like it is fast and easy for some  small projects.

Exactly!  It's not in the same application league as rubber molds, for sure.  But when I came up short on those reefer door latches...having a flat side, shallow detail, and small size...bingo! 

 

I just de-molded my second set from the same molds.  And, just as I suspected, the prodding of the JB Weld into the cavity with a rounded toothpick eliminated the tiny bubble-cavities.   The feature quality of the parts from the first and second 'pours' are identical under my Optivisor.  So, it looks like I can make several more before...and only perhaps...I have to remake the mold to renew its integrity.

 

BTW, I'd take some pictures of the original and clones and molds if I could figure out what I'm doing wrong in taking/posting pics.  My wife, the geek in the family, thinks she's found our problem.  (Me, probablyIt has nothing to do with not being able to follow the simple OGR steps per the Tech Forum.  We apparently have a local networked home computers problem in sharing files.   I'll post later if possible.

 

Also, re the Instantmold video on making the sword mold...I'm sure we all could improve upon the demonstrated technique.  We (LHS) sell a full line of the Alumilite products.  In fact, the helpful Alumilite folks have come to our store several times to hold a 'how-to' demonstration for interested customers.  Their products are very popular among several hobby avenues.  But, this Instantmold is so simple, so fast, so re-usable, it's going to be a favorite at my workbench, for sure.

 

KD

I've been a big fan and user of Alumilite for the last 7 years.  It produces exceptional castings that are very durable.  Its quick too!  20 seconds to mix, you have about 60 seconds to pour before it starts curing, and the casting is fully cured and ready to de-mold in about 5 minutes.

A neat trick that is not well known is that you can paint your RTV mold with acrylic paint; let the paint dry; and then cast your piece.  This causes the acrylic paint to chemically bond with the Alumilite to produce a piece that has your painted detail actually "embedded" into the plastic.

The only downside that I have found with Alumilite is its shelf life after opening the casting resin and catalyst.  Despite what they say, I have found that the resin tends to cast softer or produces a slightly tacky part when you are using resin and catalyst that is more than a couple of months old after opening.  Some parts just don't seem to fully and quickly cure as fast as fresh resin and catalyst.  I can't tell you why, only that I have had this issue with old resin.  I would recommend that, unless you are going to be casting enough pieces or large enough items to fully use the large bottle of the resin and catalyst within a month or so, you purchase the mini casting kits to get the smaller size bottles.  The per ounce cost is higher, but you waste less resin.

Costs... I buy my Alumilite from Hobby Lobby.  If you use their 40% off coupon, the Mini Casting kit will cost you less than $19.00.  The Mini Casting kit includes everything you need... enough RTV silicon to make a 4" x 4" x 3/4" mold, modeling clay to seal up your mold box, Popsicle sticks for stirring, (3) measuring cups, and enough resin and catalyst that you can easily make dozens, if not more, castings.

This past Saturday evening, I made a mold for the end doors on some intermodal containers that I'm scratch-building.  In about an hour and a half on Sunday afternoon, I cast a dozen of these parts to use.  All together I used about 60 ml of resin and catalyst... barely 25% of the small bottles from a mini casting kit.



Alumilite Cast Door Panels

Originally Posted by prrhorseshoecurve:

do these molded pieces come out a bit flexible?

 

Cured Alumilite would be about as flexible as a similar sized piece of styrene at the same thickness.  It *is* possible to slightly alter the 1:1 base to catalyst ratio to get a more flexible cast part.  I found this out by accident by occasionally not getting all of catalyst out of the measuring cup when mixing.  When this happens, the cast part tends to take on a slightly greenish hue... and takes longer to fully cure out.  You would have to experiment a bit to figure out how much to reduce the catalyst ratio.  But, be aware, we are only talking about a matter of few drops difference.  Also, if you don't get enough catalyst mixed in, the part will not fully cure and will be tacky.  At that point, it is a junk piece.

Originally Posted by Chris D:

can you do building kits by casting your own pieces with this kit or would you need to buy a bunch and a giant tubes of rtv for molds

 

 

You can cast whatever size of item that you need.  It is just a matter of having enough RTV to fully surround your master and to make sure that the RTV is about 1/4" to 1/2" thicker than your part.  When I make my mold boxes around the master I'm going to cast, I allow about 1/2" all around the outside of master.

 

You can buy RTV silicon typically in 1 lb. containers.  The Alumilite comes in small and large bottles.

Having messed with 1/25 scale semis...ok, still do...I've got some silicon tires that are nice and flexible. You really can't get hard resin to act soft without ruining it{lack of catylist}...you can take heat and twek it to a new shape but it'll harden like that.

I can tell you if you want a noodle like resin piece, soak it in brake fluid for a week....btw- "don't do this!!!!" I had an old semi truck cab that had piant on it, I was out of my usual stripper so I tried brake fluid like I used to use on the painted styrene cars in order to remove they're paint...all I got was a useless, wobbley cab from that and it never hardened up again.I could nearly push the front of the cab into the back of it and it tore in a spot. You can do it, but I highly advise against it...waste of a good FWD cabover for me but a valuable lesson learned{would rather of learned the lesson and kept a good cab too!}  

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