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Is there a site where I can see more of these??
The picture I posted is from the Library of Congress
found this site:
You can see a little of 30th Street Station in Penn Station especially if you ignore the mainline tracks and go upstairs to the suburban platform. Do they share the same architect?
Did DD-1's handle all trains in and out of Penn Station, or did GG-1's and boxcabs operate there also?
Kent,
juding by their age, I'd hazard the escalators were installed during the construction of the 'new' (ugh) Penn Station in 1963-64.
Tom,
When NY Penn first opened, the PRR ran 3rd rail power out to Manhattan Transfer in the NJ meadows (Harrison) and Sunnyside, Queens using DD1s. Power was then switched to steam engines. When electrification of the mainline came in the 1930s, the need for engine changes was eliminated for the most part. P5 class and GG1 became the motors of choice.
Manhatten Transfer?
I neglected to mentioned the PRR also tried electric L and O units to bring trains out of NY Penn to the transfer, but found he designs lacking and those engines saw limited use.
Charlie, you must be familiar with Manhattan transfer? It existed for close to twenty years. It had a connection to the Hudson and Manhattan (precursor to PATH) RR for access to lower Manhattan.
Thanks for explaining the locomotive query, Chris. It all makes sense now.
Charlie, you must be familiar with Manhattan transfer? It existed for close to twenty years. It had a connection to the Hudson and Manhattan (precursor to PATH) RR for access to lower Manhattan.
Before my time.
You must be older than me.
Man, I go through that station almost every day. What a drag it is. At least the movement that the demolition started saved some other places.
Manhatten Transfer?
This is the only Manhatten Transfer I'm familiar with:
The LIRR operated east past Sunnyside. There were locomotive hauled trains that were handled by DD-1's from Pennsylvania Station to Jamaica. At Jamaica, the DD-1 would be cut off moved to the pocket on the east side of jamaica and a Steam engine backed into Jamaica to pick up the train.
For the 1939 Worlds Fair, PRR DD-1s were used. They had a slight facelift on the roof overhang and were painted Brunswick with 5 stripes . LIRR DD-1s also received this scheme. During the Worlds Fair, The PRR operated the Trailblazer through Pennsylvania Station out to the LIRR's Worlds Fair Station. DD-1s handled this train.
DD-1s handled LIRR locomotive hauled trains to Jamaica until the early 1950s. There were even a couple that were repainted into the Tichy colors when the trustees took over the LIRR after PRR put its subsidiary into Bankruptcy. LIRR and PRR DD-1s leased to the LIRR were serviced at Morris Park and Richmond Hill Shops. The DD-1s handled a milk train which came through Pennsylvania Station and handled cars for the Sealtest Plant in Jamaica and some dairies out east. They also worked freight to Flatbush Ave and out to the Rockaways.
Manhatten Transfer?
Was located east of the current Harrison PATH station, roughly opposite the former CNJ layup yard. Before Newark Penn was built, the Hudson & Manhattan (PATH predecessor) used its own bridge to cross the Passaic and terminated near the current NJPAC site.
It's also interesting to note that the same tracks into Journal Square were shared by H&M trains, Pennsy "heavy" MU's and at least one steam train each way up until the late 50's. Nobody worried about crash strength.
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