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Lionel 027 stands 7/16” tall, versus O rank at 11/16” tall, so you need a way to elevate the 027to same level, if transitioning from one to the other.  The other drawback is track pins are different diameter.  You need correct style pins, to accomplish this.  Just so you know what you are dealing with, so think it over wisely.

mackb4 posted:

 Just wondering how many here incorporate O and O27 on the same layout ?

My plans are to have O27 as a shortline and O gauge as main line that will interchange on my future layout.

Like to hear about and  see your ideas  

Having a short line with lighter is a cool idea.  Some O-27 locos are smaller, especially in prewar and that goes well with the short line idea.  Be careful about larger locomotives.  F-3's or a 675/2025 is too big but a 1654, 1656 or a 520 would look fine.  I'd make the interchange tracks O-27 so they'll look like yard track off the main line.

Malcolm Laughlin

 

I would love to add an independent, elevated 027 trolley line to my O Gauge layout, but mine is a long and narrow layout, and adding the trolley line would unduly clutter the layout, which already has many accessories.

Instead of a trolley line, I opted for plenty of accessories and scenery. I have recently removed a couple of accessories and added more scenery, which I now prefer. 

Layouts involve many choices. Sometimes less is more, IMO.

If young children will be engaged with the layout, more accessories and less scenery may be better, in order to entertain the kids. Arnold 

Almost all post war Lionel's run on both O and O27 track. Many steamers are the exactly the same except for the numbers (3 digit for "O" and 4 digit for O27, # 675 and # 2025 are the same engines except for the #, as one example).

All of the postwar diesels will run on O27 curves with no problems, I know this from many year's experience. Trainmaster FM's, and early F3's will hit the switch machine covers on O27 radius switches, however. 

I like the lower profile of O27 gauge track, and that is what Warrenville uses. Wide radius O27 gauge curves of O42, O54 and (very hard to find, made by only Kline, and then for only 5 years) O72 radius are used, however. Switches are O42 radius, O27 gauge, Lionel.

I've added over 2,200 balsawood ties and kitty litter ballast producing, in my mind, a great combination of the nostalgic look with a small touch of realism. 

One O27 closed-loop circumscribes Level Three, entirely.1a [2) The Budd train navigates its tight O27 curves well.

Level Two has two inner closed-loops of O27 track,c and two closed-loops of O27 that come straight out toward the viewing aisle onto old Lionel bridges and arch-under supports, and at that point change to a larger curve of Hi-Rail track.IMG_5406xIMG_9784x [2)IMG_0193 [2)IMG_0189x8

The balance of the layoutIMG_5463 , five closed-loops, on Level One,photo 1 are O72 or better.IMG_0133 [2)photo 2x_edited-1So the layout is a mixture of Lionel O27, K-Line Hi-rail, and Gargraves larger curves and straightaways.IMG_5391

FrankM, still playin' with trains after all these decades.

Oh, and P.S., there wasn't any way whatsoever I wasn't going to have a trolley-lineIMG_0482ed, which the smaller gauge track allowed, once it was depressed into the silencer-boardIMG_0482edb

that lay atop the 3/4" plywood.broadviewfromstairs [2)

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20190115_162023

I use 027 for this trolley line, Lionel O for several main lines, Gargraves for the most recent additions to the table layout, including Ross switches.  The overhead layout is all Gargraves.

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As you can see, the table layout consists of all three.  I don't care about being prototypical.  With so much track left over from three former family layouts, there is no way I was going to replace it all.  Also, a great deal of the lower two levels of the second to last pic, track and all, was salvaged from a corner of our old attic layout.  For me, it's the trains themselves that count the most and, the more the better!!

Jerry

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