Overland SD70ACe are here

Scott,

I believe there is a lot more interest in 2-rail O scale.  I think the problems are mostly economic.  The US dollar is being replaced by the Euro, as the new standard currency.

Yes, the US dollar gets you less in Asia, putting pressure on costs/profits.

Overland makes excellent models, worth waiting for, and I'm, in some way, supporting 2-rail O scale, by locking in a few at 2095.

Which ones.  Please PM me.

I kind of wonder why Brian has taken such a negative approach to 1/48? His father is still very active in the 1/48 community and is one of the guys that really brought us some of the best models ever produced likely never to made again. Despite some learning curve issues in Korea his entire catalog of models is and still is some of the best made of certain prototypes to date in 1/48. ----> Not and Opinion

I am grateful for what Overland Models has imported for us; without them I would not have my SD7's, BL2's, U50C's, 120 Ton Brownhoist Cranes, FEF-1's, and so many more wonderful toys I so much enjoy and that brings good warm feelings to my life. 

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  I need to just not follow this model and let it play to the background and the itch to buy it will fade away.

It is beautiful and if Pelle was in O scale I am sure he would be buying a couple as when I see his articles in MR the engines look brass.

>I sure would like Atlas to fast track a 40-2. I think I could buy 5  for the price of one overland.

>I am sure our continual monthly borrowing of 85 Billion $ hurts our advantage to do business with China and others, especially if it takes 2 or 3 years to get a model.

Phill

I doubt he has any personal enmity toward O Scale.  The market is too thin, and now it is getting picky.  I respect Eric's opinion, but I will not let an early Overland in my shop. There are now factory painted UP turbines out there held together with JB Weld.  I did not do it, and when asked to help sell one of these things I refused.

I believe all of these high end models are imported because the importer loves trains.  I am sure that is true of Brian and probably George Kohs.  Importing brass scale trains, especially in O Scale, is a good way to make a small fortune.  Of course you have to start with a very large fortune.

Gee wiz, should I get into personal attacks against certain people or organizations I find rather worthless because they don't do what I want the way I want when I want.  My list is rather long.

My dealings with Brian have been exactly the opposite.  He is the only one willing to do any hi grade modern mainline stuff which is the only stuff I am interested in.  Thankfully, for me, he is just not another me too doing big boys or old diesels for the umpteenth time.

He did the UP MP heritage unit because one person wanted one but the builder required three.  So he has two for sale.  He built very unique Australian SD70ACes and not everyone who reserved them is following through.  Folks who put money upfront for those should never expect to see their deposits again and he will probably have to sell those at a loss beyond what he did collect.

Just out of the box, first look!

Congrats!! That looks like a beauty!

How is your thoughts on her so far? Was it stunning? It looks like it from here. Love those high marker lights. Something about the CN colors adds to the striking appearance.

I would have a real tough time picking which one to order. They are all looking good!

Not mine   Tom was just pulling them from the boxes for the Indy show.

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I just love the paint finish on brass models as just as nice as the real thing.

Phill

 Thanks for sharing!!

Had this run been GE Evos I would have been tempted, however since I like to buy my Diesels in pairs that would have probably ruled out that size investment.

Start saving $100 a month and maybe we'll have enough saved for 2 by the time a GE EVOS is released. A Brass account.  

Railroad guy,

Those are very nice.Thanks for posting those. Were those for sale?

Those are stunning, thanks for the photos Dan.

Yes, those are some of the unclaimed units. I hope he sells all of them there.  Then he might be more receptive to future ES44s and SD70ACes.  Then I can take the money I am scavenging about for to a couple of these towards reservations on those.

Wow would be an understatement on that CN unit. It is exquisite to say the least!!  Nicely done!  Wish I could get a trio of those beauties that's for sure. 

Is Mike Deberg in the house?  

Here are some pictures from the Overland Models Facebook Pages............

They all look fantastic!

Regards,

Swafford

I sec. the ES44

I just mailed off my last check for my CN unit yesterday and can't wait to get it! I think the level of detail that these units have is worth the wait and I'm trying to fight the urge to buy one more. I'll be sure to post pictures when it arrives.

CN_Hogger

You probably won't have to worry.  There is only one CN left and it will probably be gone in the next day or so if you don't.

One last one...

O Scale tycoons discussing.... hmmmmmm

Two kool guys right there. They're discussing Overland locos with MMW drives.

 Could we guess than who they are? Brian on the left? I can't remember who modified the drives, (MMW) Eric on the right?

https://ogrforum.com/t...-high-quality-sd40-2

Hey they LOOK GREAT! 

WAAAAYYY Too MODERN for me but I sure do respect the models. I hope these are not the last he imports. 

Good job Brian! 

Darn, I thought I could get away from this topic but the ES44s sound so nice and need to talk it up so maybe we can have them produced. I need to find another best buy to buy at the low now up some 300% this year. That would have been enough for  me to buy 2 for $1500.   

the wait is almost over...

Frank, did you go for it???

Some interesting points were raised about radius in the "Why 2 rail???" thread.  Does Overland list an official minimum radius for these SD70ACe and SD70M-2 locomotives? 

Nope.

Most importers do not specify minimum radius. It might kill

sales.

marty

I've run the previous production on a 60" radius curve.  If the new run is similar I'd expect the up coming batch to run the same.

I've never known anyone who cared.  If Mike says 60" that's cool, I would have thought 72-80".

I was looking at an old O Scale News magazine with an Overland Models ad for the SD70Mac that lists the minimum radius as 35". I remember seeing another Overland ad for the SD90Mac that lists the minimum radius as 38". Overlands website also listed 40"minimum radius for their SD40,45T-2's that they canceled several years ago.

I have several Overland SD75m's and a SD70Mac that will run fine on Lionel O72(36"radius) fastrack without a problem. I can't run anything coupled to them shorter than a 50' boxcar because of the severe overhang of the loco's couplers. The driveline doesn't make bad clicking noises on O72, that would suggest that the u-joints are being pivoted to their maximum limits creating binding, but I think they're very close. I've also tested my loco's on 40,45 and 49.5 radius Atlas sectional track and while they run very well on any of those radiuses, I think a 49.5" radius would be my minimum if my space available prohibited me from larger radiuses.

I have a friend that runs his SD70Ace on Atlas 49.5" radius and it runs very well without any problems, and it looks decent on this size radius,and seems to be operating comfortably within it's design limitations, I prefer a 56" radius for loco's in this length range. I don't have and SD70Ace as of yet, but I'm tinkering on my layout with 58" and 60" radius to satisfy my personal aesthetic preferences.

I think that a safe minimum for loco's of this length range(C44-9,SD70Mac,75m)from a design perspective, that wouldn't cause premature wear and/or failure of driveline components, would be nothing less than a 45" radius.