Overland SD70ACe are here

Overland has 2 units left. Both are UP Heritage.  One SP and one D&RGW.  The D&RGW unit is being sent back to Korea this week to fix a paint flaw.

Yeah, the more times you watch Mike's video, the more detail you see.. Kind of like watching the Matrix movies.

Speaking of OMI SD70Aces.  If anyone was interested

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Overla...;hash=item20ddcef889

Not to mention that it's an ACe... They did a pretty nice job converting it, but to me the lack of many of the CN specific details is too great to spend that kind of money on it. The different walkways and different louvers do make a big difference. Granted I spend (way too much) time on the real ones and these missing details would stick out like a sore thumb to me.  I really wish I had the funds to have gotten two of 'em at the time...

CN_Hogger

http://www.railpictures.net/vi...id=297039&nseq=5

This face shot shows the on-board camera's size; how does the Overland models compare?

Rick

They must have been delivered with the EMD standard and later modified. In later photos, they've got the horizontal ones. I stand corrected, we didn't really get many of the early 8800's down in the US when they were brand new as they pretty much kept them captive in Canada.

CN_Hogger

 http://www.rrpicturearchives.n...ture.aspx?id=1016147

CN,

I think you're right; I've seen pictures of CN8844 with both configurations(vertical and horizontal). Horizontal... definitely makes sense for winter conditions.

Rick

OK here are a flood of more photos.  Started by weathering as delivered, rusty coupler and wheels.  Adding some soot around air intake/exhaust and fans.  Did some pulling tests comparing MTH (UP and BNSF) to OMI.  On a static drawbar pull test 3 OMI registered 1400 grams, 3 MTH registered 1550.  On a drag test, OMI can pull stationary MTH but very slowly.  MTH can crawl away a bit faster than stationary OMI.  Both actively pulling MTH starts to break OMI lose before breaker trips.  Winner by a hair is MTH due to weight, as delivered they were a bit heavier.  To even it up, OMI can be weighted to match MTH.  Lots of similar photos but different focal lengths.  You can see near the end where the focal length plays a part in showing the beefiness of the rear end, one is looks fat the other looks thin.  Photos of truck and frame details comparing the two.  And in general excessive shutter clicking just because.  

Thanks for your additional contribution, Mike.

The performance info is appreciated. I'm into power; I've got no use for non-powered models. I don't care how good a unit looks, if it can't do it's job.

We all know MTH's failings, re: certain details; but, those front corner shots of the BNSF and WP units, look pretty good. It's the small things that really finish off a good looking model. MTH's statements, in their catalogs, gives a hint at what they try to achieve, for the money.

They're not aiming for perfection; and their prices reflect that. Overland takes your wallet; they have a higher standard to live up to...

Your squad of new ACe's look pretty good; I especially like the rear shot.

Thanks.

Rick

M Pitogo,

Have you checked the weight on any of your OMI SD70ace's? I'm curious as to what they weigh. I have two SD70macs from an earlier run that weigh 6.14 lbs which seem to be a little light and probably should weigh somewhere around 7 lbs.

I have an OMI GP60m from a 1994 run that weighs in at 5.21 lbs and an OMI SD40-2 that weighs in at 5.41 lbs, and an 8-40BW weighing in at 5.14 lbs.

The OMI GP60m feels just right at 5.21 lbs and weighs more than an Atlas GP60m weighing 4.64 lbs.

I think large loco's like the 70mac's, dash 9's, 70ace's, should weigh nothing less than 7 lbs. With OMI having ball bearings on the axles and gearboxes, they should be able to support more weight. I think 7 lbs minimum and up to 8 lbs is what I'll be experimenting with for my loco's.

I'm just curios as to what your SD70ace's weigh?

Thanks for all the photos you just posted, everything looks good.

Travis

 Michael, yes thank you for sharing!! Beautiful photos of them. Great job. Now maybe I could swap you a ton of electronics for one of those extra OMI's??? 

.......I would have to strip everything.....

Thanks for the photos, Mike.

Joe, tempting...

Travis,

Stock MTH 6 lbs 10 oz

Stock OMI 5 lbs 15 oz

Going to look at adding 1 lbs 1oz get it to 7.

Curious if anyone can obtain a cab interior shot. Thanks in advance.

Good Evening Michael,

It will be interesting to learn how much more pulling power your CSX SD70ACe's will have with the added weight.

Regards,

Frank 

Goal is 101 freight cars.

Here's an OMI stock photo of the interior.

 

John

 

Originally Posted by prrhorseshoecurve:

Curious if anyone can obtain a cab interior shot. Thanks in advance.

 

I hate to be that critical, that screw sticks out like a sore thumb! Probably because of the super close-up shot? Looks like it's in the windshield. Might be tempted to paint it white?

They need some aspirin on the dash to look any more realistic.

Otherwise, another Wow.

Stack train is on its own and at 45 cars is monstrously heavy.

For the 101 freight cars I am replicating a mixed freight train.

It includes MTH 50' Hi-Cubes, MTH Center beam Flats, MTH Gondola coil car, Atlas 50' 6" Box Cars, Atlas 60' Auto Parts single and double door box cars, Lionel Vision ethanol tank cars, Lionel 53' PS-5 Gondola, scratch built tank car, Weaver Airslide hoppers, various makes of covered hoppers and other stuff in the mix... will update as I remember em.   Almost all are weathered, some by Industrial Models some by other weatherers and some by me.

I cast 17oz lead blocks and glued them to the existing weight in fuel tanks.  Weight is now a mighty 7 lbs each and perfectly capable.  Any more would add little if any extra traction.  On the drive side, the model only has ball bearings on truck side frame journals and on the gear box for the wheels axles.  The idler and transfer gears have bronze bearings.  The extra weight should be fine carried by the ball bearings.  The only area where there can or maybe an issue is the increased load on the drive line gears and axles.

Did any of you put DCC into these locomotives?

With school and work taking most of my time, I've finally started to think about getting it done.  I was planning on putting DCC into one unit first, and see how it goes.  I was going to order supplies from Tony's Train Exchange, can you recommend the best decoder to go with the SD70ACe?  I'm drawing power from a 10amp NCE system.

I briefly opened one of shells, and it's only a couple of screws, that part is not complicated at all.  I have one SD70ACe from the 2005 or 2006 run, and one CSX from the most recent run.

I still have to open up the older unit, to see what differences their may be with the inner workings.