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Thought I'd share a recent attic rescue. It's a boxed set #2223W from 1954.

 

2223w 001

 

 

Here is the page from the 1954 catalog showing the set.

 

54Set2223W 001

 

 

Luckily, this particular set had the harder-to-find orange WP 6464-100 with the blue feather, rather than the more common silver with yellow feather version.

 

Set2223W 007

 

 

It's interesting that although the car was stamped 6464-100, the box had the number 6464-250 (tough box to find). This is not to be confused with the 1966 version of the 6464-250 orange WP which came in the later orange box.

 

Set2223W 006

 

 

This set also featured the neat, gray LV caboose.

 

2223w 003

 

Video coming soon!

 

Jim

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Come to think of it, Lionel made a replica of that car (NEW 1-94) numbered 6464-100. The type is slightly different, probably to distinguish it from the original. The catalog number is 6-19260. A number on top of the box, in black bold-face type, is 70-6109-200. At the bottom right corner of the side without a plastic "window," printed in black on orange just above the cream border, is MADE AND LITHO IN U.S.A. That sure looks good today.

Yes, they were "electronic" bicycle horns powered by the D cell battery that you put inside. They were more of a metal on metal vibrating sound. Some worked great others not so great. There is an adjusting screw in the back of the horn housing that sometimes helped other times didn't. Once you hear it you never forget it. Mike

Mike,

The set was found in Schenectady NY, but the family originally purchased it in the Hartford CT area. I'm glad they brought it with them when they moved here!!!

 

Michael,

Mike has it right about the horn. It's the main reason why many of us don't worry about whether the horn is operational in a postwar diesel.

 

Trackahead,

Rich Melvin and I managed to complete that shoot in a single long day. Glad you enjoyed it.

 

Jim

 

It really was a great find, although all is not always what it seems in small internet photos. The set does have several "problems" that would reduce its appeal to many serious collectors. It really isn't as perfect as we would like. We would rate most of the items in the set as C6 (the old system "Very Good").

 

But, that doesn't really diminish the experience of finding a hard-to-find version of the postwar trains many of us love so much.

 

Although an item may not be collector grade in the eyes of many, getting the chance to run it still brings me back to some very happy times in my youth when my father was first introducing me to the fun of model trains. Considering how things have turned out for me in this hobby in the 60+ years that followed, I think he was very successful. 

 

Jim

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Jim Policastro:

It really was a great find, although all is not always what it seems in small internet photos. The set does have several "problems" that would reduce its appeal to many serious collectors. It really isn't as perfect as we would like. We would rate most of the items in the set as C6 (the old system "Very Good").

 

But, that doesn't really diminish the experience of finding a hard-to-find version of the postwar trains many of us love so much.

 

Although an item may not be collector grade in the eyes of many, getting the chance to run it still brings me back to some very happy times in my youth when my father was first introducing me to the fun of model trains. Considering how things have turned out for me in this hobby in the 60+ years that followed, I think he was very successful. 

 

Jim

 

 

 

Many times, to me, a C-6 is better than a C-10. I relate it to my collector cars. My 73 Javelin is a winning restored car with some rare options. When I drive it, I don't trailer cars, I am always nervous about some idiot running into me. (or a deer)

But when I take out my unrestored Matador I have fun as it's just not as rare or refined.

Same with 50's era Lionel.....You can run your set and have fun.....not worrying that if it derails and takes a bump you loose an investment.

I like it!

Originally Posted by eddie g:

The 6464-250 box is worth more than the car. I sure wouldn't be running that car if it were mine. I bought one years ago with the box in new condition $500. i saw one go on ebay about a year ago for $2500.

 

I knew that video would get to a few fellow collectors, Ed.  

 

Like I mentioned, it's condition is far from "like new" and a trip or two around a layout would have no impact on its value. I agree that the box is probably the single most valuable item in the lot.

 

Jim

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