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UPS delivered this morning from Nassau Hobby. This is the new Lionel GP35, barely over a month after it first appeared in the fall catalog.  Overall, pretty typical Lionel, Weaver, or MTH construction. A sheet metal chassis with cast metal pilots, trucks, truck side frames, fuel tank, and a plastic cab/body. Atlas O's GP35 is superior in this regard as it has a hefty cast metal frame which makes it quite a bit heavier. However, as far as I know the Atlas GP35 Santa Fe version only comes in the dress blue and I like the bonnet better. The Lionel GP35 is pretty much constructed like a postwar FM Trainmaster.  Here are some pictures taken out in the sunshine.

 

 

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All in all, a nice looking locomotive with lots of detail. The LionTruck design is cool as always and makes for easy access and maintenance. The only thing I did not like is the excessive play in the wheel sets. They excessive play means that the gears do not mesh squarely which can lead to uneven wear when pulling heavier loads.  

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I was waiting to see pix before I bought one to go with my GP30. I see they left out the gauge on the side of the fuel tank again, although their catalog shows it has one. No big deal, another Detail Associates part I can add, as well as Roof top AC, antenna stand, moving the horn, eliminating the foot boards, fixed pilots with Kadees....

Oh yeah, its another project for me...not that I need one.

At least Lionel got the pilots aligned right with the GP35. As you know, the rear pilot of the Santa Fe GP30 was just a tad off (being a bit sarcastic).

 

Also, the catalog picture is not of a Lionel product. It appears to be an HO sized unit. So it is not surprising that the actual product is a bit different.

 

 

 

 

Here is an interior shot of the GP35 locomotive. One thing that I sometimes over look and do not always appreciate is the mounting of the motors.  Part of the LionTech truck design is that the motors do not swivel, rotate, or otherwise move in the cab. They are in fixed position. Thus there is no tugging on wires when the locomotive enters curves which reduces the chance of wires coming loose or breaking. Very cool design which I would put above the others.  

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I was able to operate the locomotive for the first time last night. All functions worked as intended. One simple thing impressed me. I ran the locomotive in complete darkness. No lights were visible through the plastic. So many products these days have the lights visible through the cab in spots where lights have no business being visible through. Not a problem with this loco.

 

Eight small screws hold the cab to the chassis. The cab has metal insets by which the screws hold the cab to the chassis. The treads of both the screws and the metal inserts are very fine. I would not screw and unscrew too many times since there is a chance of stripping the threads over time. 

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There was a remark on another thread which stated that this GP35 is painted wrong. The main complaint is that the top of the nose and the adjacent walk ways are not blue.

While the majority of the GP35's had blue top nose, not all of them did. Here is a pic of Santa Fe #2925 which clearly has a yellow top of the nose and yellow walkways.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=383937&nseq=151

 

There is another pick on the web of #3312 which shows the unit with yellow sanding equipment on the nose just like it is with the Lionel unit. I am quite comfortable with the paint on the unit. 

It's not painted wrong, some of the details are just wrong. That picture you posted does NOT have yellow walkways, and if you look close, you'll see the anti-glare panel painted on the nose. If it wasn't there from the factory, it was added soon after it went into service. A lot of times the blue was worn off the walkway leading to the front door, even the paint on the bottom of the door was worn off from us kicking it closed. I assure you, those walkways and the nose was painted at one point or another. It's easily  correctable.

On this thread

https://ogrforum.com/t...nel-vs-atlas-o-gp35s

it was stated that 

 

"Atlas all the Way for the Santa Fe. I did not want to crash the party on the other thread about the New Lionel GP35, But they Missed it on not painting the nosetop and walkway Blue."

 

I interpreted that statement as to the unit being painted wrong. 

 

The picture of #2925 clearly has the the top of the nose yellow, that's all. Perhaps at some later point the top of the nose was painted blue, but ATSF operated this particular GP35, however briefly, with yellow nose tops as well.  

Well I took the plunge as my GP30 needs a running mate, so here's my GP35 in pieces as the transformation begins.

 

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I've removed the outer brake shows from the side frames. It makes it more modern but more importantly, allows the rear truck to swing after I body mount the pilots and Kadee couplers.

 

The truck bodies have been cut down to allow room for the body mounted Kadee. I didn't have to remove that much material, but it was apart and the finished product will look better this way.

 

Anti-glare panel painted on top of the nose.

 

A few more parts ordered from PSC that I thought I had but didn't, and needed to finish the project.

 

The footboards will be ground off the pilots, also making them more modern, and scratch built fillers will be added as well as the mounts for the Kadees.

 

Obviously all the electro coupler stuff has been removed, as well as the 9volt battery harness. Not needed as I only run command environments with this.

 

This is a major project, and will take many hours, but like I said, my GP30 needs a running mate for my switching layout. 

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Originally Posted by Dtrainmaster:

Laidoffsick,

Since you have torn your new GP35 apart, I would like to know if the handrails are easily removable?

I was thinking of buying two to repaint, but would need to remove and re-attach the handrails.

 

Dave

Seems pretty easy to get them off once you're at this stage. They are just push pins into the walkway. You can probably get the handrails off without even taking the shell off.

 

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