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Having just positioned the track on my new layout, I'll have a 30 inch radius curve with a 45 inch drop to the floor along the outside edge of the track.  What will work best to minimize trains derailing and hitting the floor?  I can add a raised lip to the outside edge of the track, say 1/2 inch deep and high, or add a plexiglas edge, or superelevate the track to move the center of gravity to make a derailment and subsequent drop less likely.  The inside of the curve is filled, so a derailment in that direction would be safe.   I'm open to ideas at this point because nothing is fastened down yet. Now is the perfect time to put some safeguards in place.

 

Yes, I can reposition the track so it is not so near the edge of the layout, but that kind of runs counter to the desire to have as much of a run as possible vs. the table space available.

 

What has worked for the forum members who have this situation? 

 

Thanks,

 

Dale

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The elevated track radii on the layout my layout are from (34to 38)inch with tangent blended connections to adjacent tracks with no S curves. Superelevation of the track in the curves was completed by a 2 degree downward pitch (rotation) of the plywood base on the wood support risers towards the center of curvature. I used a Empire Magnetic Protractor level visually aligned with the estimated center of curvature and rotated the wood base clockwise downward 2 degrees, this level was on the wood base radially facing the estimated center of curvature. For all of the elevated track, scrap lumber segments of 1X3 or 1X4 lengths less than the width of the plywood base, were vertically attached with the 3(2.5) or 4(3.5) dimension downward with wood screws.

These segments were positioned to align with the vertical wood track risers, once the superelevation was set, C clamps were used to secure the track plywood base superelevation in position, holes were drilled through the track riser and 1X3 or 1X4 in a cross drill, wood screws then clamped the connection.

On this operational segment of the layout numerous trains were run through these curves at scale speed no derailments plus the slight pitch of the cars toward the center of curvature adds realism. 

What equipment are you operating and planning to operate?  I ask because 060 (30" radius) may pose issues if you operate or plan to operate scale length passenger and/or freight equipment; or, locomotives requiring similar min. radii.

 

If there is any doubt about safe operations, install the Plexiglas--Murphy's law for model trains.

Jim and Bruce have the best solution.  If you track is sufficiently recessed from the edge, pink foam can be made into a wall, a shallow embankment, used as the base for a grove of trees, anything that will catch the equipment should it derail.  Plexi is the next best solution.  I use a little or both, neither look as good as Jim's.

I will stick with my nails set in holes drilled in the Homosote. I have about 1 1/4" between the edge of the outer rail and the edge of the layout and I need this for overhang plus I want easy access to the track. Plus, to be able to see the track. I looked at the other options and the nails were quick and easy. Plus, you don't even notice them. I just got done running trains for an hour and you had to look for the nails to notice them. I could make them look like fence posts but too lazy.

The three phots below show I like to live dangerously.  I have about fifty-five feet of track within an inch or two of the layout edge: 40 inches to the floor. 

 

I have a similar plexi-glas barrier to that pictured by Putnam division, except mine has very thin support posts every foot or so.  I install this when the grandkids are going to be here or I expect lots of kids as guests.  

 

Otherwise I leave it off.  Going on nearly ten years now, I run without my barriers in place most of the time.  I have had one loco tumble off onto the floor and three rolling stock in about 10,000 hours in those ten years,m and three rolling stock fell.  Allwere damaged by repairable with effort and a wait for parts.     That is an "accident rate" I can tolerate: I don't like the look of a barrier, even transparent.

 

 

A little piece of Plexiglass does wonders for our modular display....

Peter:

 

What are you using for the vertical joiners between sections of the plexiglass?  They are nearly invisible and look very neat and tidy.  Is this something you can buy online or at a Lowes/Home Depot?  Are they strong enough to support people who put their hands on the plexiglass?

 

Thanks.

 

Steven J. Serenska

 

Originally Posted by Lee Willis:

The three phots below show I like to live dangerously.  I have about fifty-five feet of track within an inch or two of the layout edge: 40 inches to the floor. 

 

I have a similar plexi-glas barrier to that pictured by Putnam division, except mine has very thin support posts every foot or so.  I install this when the grandkids are going to be here or I expect lots of kids as guests.  

 

Otherwise I leave it off.  Going on nearly ten years now, I run without my barriers in place most of the time.  I have had one loco tumble off onto the floor and three rolling stock in about 10,000 hours in those ten years,m and three rolling stock fell.  Allwere damaged by repairable with effort and a wait for parts.     That is an "accident rate" I can tolerate: I don't like the look of a barrier, even transparent.

 

 

Those 3 photos be missing Lee.

Steve wrote:

 

Peter:

 

What are you using for the vertical joiners between sections of the plexiglass?  They are nearly invisible and look very neat and tidy.  Is this something you can buy online or at a Lowes/Home Depot?  Are they strong enough to support people who put their hands on the plexiglass?

 

ANSWERS:

1. Nothing.....each 48" piece is independent and screwed solely to the module.

2. We ask people not to lean on them.

3. They are a there to give a minimal deterence to little hands.

4. I'm not sure where we got the Plexiglass. It was either Lowe's or Home Depot.

 

Peter

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This pic shows a home-made "guardrail" at the front edge of a temporary layout, made of heavy-gauge wire. It's effective, and the appearance is fairly unobstrusive.

The horizontal part is covered with black tape so it shouldn't scratch any errant trains. The vertical ends are threaded for attaching it to the table.

 

Some more ideas here

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Had by B&O 0-6-0 launch off my elevated loop. 

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Thankfully the damage wasn't as bad as originally thought but it still isn't pretty. While putting my layout back together from table rebuilding, I've opted to remove the elevated loop. I'm making a few minor changes so I'll be able to have 3 loops on the table top. 

 

I'll still have an elevated track but it will just be a simple point to point for my bump and go trolley. I'd rather have that $70 trolley launch off the elevated track vs a $500 locomotive

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