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Problems adding K-Line TMCC engines to DCS

N NYC2UPOGR Forum Member

First off, since I am attempting to add TMCC engines to DCS, I thought that the DCS forum is the place to post this topic.

 

So, I have several several K-Line TMCC engines (a Hudson, Berkshire and a Mikado) and a Lionel TMCC Mohawk that I want to run / operate from my DCS remote. The Berkshire came with K-Line's cruise control. I installed in the Hudson their after market cruise control. And the Mikado has no cruise control.

 

Besides the DCS system, I have the Lionel Cab-1 Trainmaster Command Set (6-12969) and the MTH TIU / TMCC connector cable (50-1018), correctly connected to the MTH TIU. All my MTH engines operate fine with the DCS remote by the way.

 

Now the Lionel Mohawk runs fine on the DCS remote. I can edit the engine ID from the factory default #1 to another number, control it's speed with the thumb wheel, reverse, fire the coupler, turn on /off the smoke, etc. So this shows to me at least that I have the set up right.

 

But the K-Line engines though act a little strange. I can add them to the DCS remote, but I can not get them to move by using the DCS remote thumb wheel at all. I can move them by using the Cab-1 remote however. The start up / shut down, reverse, sound volume, etc., can be controlled by the DCS remote, but not move them. If I change the ID # from default 1 another #, then I get no control on the DCS remote at all. Change their ID # back to factory default TMCC #1 on the DCS remote and I get the same result as before - all functions except movement with the thumb wheel. Is there something that I'm not doing correctly, or is there something peculiar about K-Line TMCC engines vs. Lionel's?

 

I've looked through my copy of Barry's DCS guide book several times and didn't find anything more to check that I haven't done already. Is this just the way it is? 

 

Scratching my head,

Tom

 

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Barry BroskowitzBarry BroskowitzOGR Forum Member MEMORIALIZED MEMBER

Tom,

 

K-Line used a method of speed control with 128 steps instead of the normal 32 TMCC steps. In order to get K-Line engines to move, after starting up the engine, use soft key "SPD" to set the DCS Remote to 128 speed steps. You'll need to do this every time you startup a TMCC K-Line engine with 128 speed steps.

 

From page 125 of The DCS O gauge Companion 2nd Edition:

• Pressing the SPD soft key allows selection of 128 or 32 speed steps for the active TMCC engine. Only TMCC engines equipped with K-Line's speed control or TAS EOB should be used with 128 speed steps. All other TMCC engines, and Legacy engines operating in TMCC mode, should use 32 speed steps

 

This and a whole lot more is all in MTH’s “The DCS O Gauge Companion 2nd Edition", available for purchase as an eBook or a printed book at MTH's web store!

Last edited by Barry Broskowitz
N NYC2UPOGR Forum Member

Barry,

 

Thanks for the suggestion. This at least explains the difference between Lionel & K-Line TMCC engines.

 

I just attempted to try your suggestion but I don't see an SPD soft key. Is this supposed to appear on the DCS remote? If yes, all I have are 5 Aux keys shown on the DCS remote. Is this a DCS software version issue? Mine still is the original version that's not been updated.

 

Tom

Dave HikelDave HikelOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBERFORUM SPONSOR
Originally Posted by NYC2UP:

 Is this a DCS software version issue? Mine still is the original version that's not been updated.

 

Tom

Hi Tom,

 

Yes, this is a software revision issue.  Barry is referring to the soft keys as they have appeared since version 4.0 was released.  We are now on version 4.20.  Get your TIU and remote updated and you'll be good to go.

gunrunnerjohngunrunnerjohnOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER
Originally Posted by Barry Broskowitz:
 From page 125 of The DCS O gauge Companion 2nd Edition:

• Pressing the SPD soft key allows selection of 128 or 32 speed steps for the active TMCC engine. Only TMCC engines equipped with K-Line's speed control or TAS EOB should be used with 128 speed steps. All other TMCC engines, and Legacy engines operating in TMCC mode, should use 32 speed steps

I use this option for ERR equipped engines in the 100 step mode, works fine.

 

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