Quote message missing?

Seems gone now - will make responses awkward to specific questions.  There are a lot here that can't follow a discussion w/o being directed to specific prior statements.

Copy and paste works.

"While I agree that it's overused and abused at times, there are other times where a short clip really helps with the understanding of the thread, especially if you're referring to a post that's not immediately above yours."

It was there.  But not now!

ROn

Copy and paste works - true.   That alone will cut down on a lot of unnecessary wholesale reposting & repetition of pictures.

I don't see the share icon either, and the removal of the Quoting function prevents me from quoting the OP here and indicating that my answer is in a response to such.

I agree that while it is sometimes misused (especially in photo heavy posts), the removal of this feature is more detrimental as it can make it hard to connect responses to specific posts, especially in some of the more technical oriented threads where parallel troubleshooting or thought processes can be going on.

Guys...I will start a new topic and try to answer your questions....just please be patient.

Any text material worth quoting in a member's post, should be worth the modest/minimal effort of a simple "copy and paste" by that member.    

Alan,

I appreciate that you and your team is working to find answers.  However, I agree with mwb.

mwbMember

Copy and paste is not a solution as the formatting provided by quoting clearly delineates it as such. If we can't trust people to quote properly, we certainly can't trust them to copy and paste and add formatting to properly attribute it consistently... I'd much rather have the occasional misuse of quoting and not have features pulled for what I think is a vocal minority...

I see the change as unfortunate because it will cut down on member interaction. I will go get over it, I’m sure.

https://ogrforum.com/...c/138682179727710928

OK Guys and Gals....here is at least a partial explanation.  Please take time to read it and then you can comment.  We want your CONSTRUCTIVE opinions....thanks!

I like the old way of quoting.  I learned how to use it properly.  The new way is more of a hassle IMO.  

It's very easy to copy and paste and use other methods to delineate the quote, e.g. bmoran4:

Copy and paste is not a solution as the formatting provided by quoting clearly delineates it as such. If we can't trust people to quote properly, we certainly can't trust them to copy and paste and add formatting to properly attribute it consistently... I'd much rather have the occasional misuse of quoting and not have features pulled for what I think is a vocal minority...

Why should I have to go through the hassle of highlighting, italicizing, and bold just to make a quote when the old method work just fine?

Ah no share symbol here on Chrome.  Great.  Hopefully rolleyes still works.  

"And they probably redesigned the whole sickbay, too! I know engineers, they LOVE to change things."  Dr. Leonard McCoy

Carl, the "quote" feature does all of that without mousing around, all you have to do is kill off the extra graphics and the like.   In addition, it also has the screen name of who you're quoting automatically. 

I wonder if they can make it so it leaves the graphics behind, that would solve a major source of issues.  In the rare instance you need a graphic quoted, you can copy/paste that single graphic.

You don't:

"Why should I have to go through the hassle of highlighting, italicizing, and bold just to make a quote when the old method work just fine?

Marty"

John, my first quote of MartyE was to demonstrate the features available to identify a quote; and, the minimal effort required--15 seconds, maybe.

And my main is that the old "reply with quote" required only two clicks (one for "take action" and one for "reply with quote") led to overuse by some folks.

If something is worth quoting, it ought to be worth the modest effort and thought beyond two clicks.

For sharing, click on the “network” icon.....three dots connected by line

Well, it worked on John’s original post. But no longer shows share options.

Marty E, whole hardheartedly agree with your post.

"If something is worth quoting there should be a one stop button push and be done.

This update has done nothing for this forum beside making it difficult. I'm all for change when its for the better but what the heck did this do for the better?"

Ron

I fully agree with the previous post, which I can no longer quote and post to!

Kind of makes one wonder just what is going on with these new CROWDSTACK people that don't even bother to consult their customers whenever they make changes.

The “Quote with Reply” feature was turned off because people were abusing it. It really is that simple. In dozens of threads we would get complaints about people re-posting a dozen photos, only to add “Nice pictures!” at the bottom. We tried numerous times to educate members here how to just REPLY without quoting a bunch of nonsense, to no avail.

There’s no conspiracy here. It’s not being done for “legal” reasons. It was done because people abused the privilege. That’s it.

It wasn't censored. I understand. I kinda ranted. But I still think the quote aspect wasn't broken but is now. 

I just deleted a second post theorizing that Crowdstack did this due to COPPA guidelines and a lot of other deep, legal nonsense. Read my post two above this one.

Sorry Rich, I just used that text as a copy/paste example.

I'm guessing (and hoping) that the copy&paste method will quickly be seen as much worse than the former "reply with quote" feature.  I certainly do NOT like the share symbol's "copy link to reply" method which makes reading a post w/ a copy link reply a convoluted please refer to XYZ's post encounter that reminds me of using the almost useless, but definitely frustrating microsoft Troubleshooter feature that comes pre-loaded on our computers.  I hope OGR can further discuss w/ crowd-stack possible remedies such as what @gunrunnerjohn suggested to possibly not allow pics w/i a reply-quote or have automated downsizing of any included pics.  Please do not consider pop-up info-warning boxes when the reply w/ quote is selected.

PingmanMember

It's very easy to copy and paste and use other methods to delineate the quote, e.g. bmoran4:

Copy and paste is not a solution as the formatting provided by quoting clearly delineates it as such. If we can't trust people to quote properly, we certainly can't trust them to copy and paste and add formatting to properly attribute it consistently... I'd much rather have the occasional misuse of quoting and not have features pulled for what I think is a vocal minority...

Carl

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Rich MelvinOGR Technology Manager Digital Subscriber

The “Quote with Reply” feature was turned off because people were abusing it. It really is that simple. In dozens of threads we would get complaints about people re-posting a dozen photos, only to add “Nice pictures!” at the bottom. We tried numerous times to educate members here how to just REPLY without quoting a bunch of nonsense, to no avail.

There’s no conspiracy here. It’s not being done for “legal” reasons. It was done because people abused the privilege. That’s it.

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Rich, it's obvious forum monitoring and housekeeping tasks are often tedious and sometimes usually frustrating.  However, I hope that those complaints in the dozens of threads are not coming from a consistent and relatively few (as compared to the number of active/registered users).  I agree the "Nice pictures!" end reply add-on to a picture laden quote is not efficient and/or you got to be kidding me frustrating - but not hard to quickly scroll past unless... you still have AOL dial-up.  We wouldn't be aware of any moderator direct off-forum communications to the topic that might occur and aside from a few instances of either member or OGR posted comments to the effect "when quoting, you don't have to include all the pics" I'm not familiar or don't recall a forum reply w/ quote education program.

Countless times over the past near 20 yrs of this OGRR Magazine Forum members have been reminded by you and the other moderators that we must show patience and grace to those members that might be new or less informed when they might ask an often asked & answered question or not attempt a successful forum search.  I hope this issue is one of those times that require more patience and grace by OGR and those complainers.

I find it ironic that we all are asked to misuse permalinks because quotes were being misused .

Rich, I hope you will stick to your guns and brush aside the unsubstantiated claim that the problem with misuse of the reply with quote feature can be fixed by forum education.  Instead, enjoy the absence of those abuses we've enjoyed these past few days without the quote feature.

I like the old quote feature, but will gladly accept the only slightly less efficient copy and paste method of quoting a forum member if I am spared the misuse of the quote feature.  If a quote from a post is truly necessary for a reply, surely it is worth the modest few seconds necessary to insert it if we eliminate the abuses that are NOT occasional or infrequent but, rather, hourly and daily occurrences of the past.

The "Reply with Quote" feature has been re-enabled. Please don't abuse it.