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I have come to the awful realization that I could make a pretty good sized P48 layout in my warehouse, and not sacrifice much storage real estate at all. Please shoot me before I pick up the power tools.

I like the modern era, maybe to the 1980s, with heavy industry, gritty urban landscapes, fairly short trains, and slowww running.

A current plan has 58-60 inch radius curves at each end of a dogbone. If I go larger, I might run into problems, as the roadbed will be up in the pallet racks. Do you think I could get away with this for modern 60 foot cars? How about 86 foot hicubes and autoracks?

I am sort of thinking about that extremely tight curves on the old Milwaukee mainline, immediately east of the main station in Milwaukee (yes, I realize how big that curve is in reality). I do not mind that extremely tight look (and the noise) - but during my time in the city I saw the guys cleaning up after dumping cars on the ground at least a couple of times. I do not want to be those guys.

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Will

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Thank you for the reply.

Hmmm...rats about possible trouble with 86 foot hicubes and autoracks. Any ideas what radius might work? Remember, slow speeds. I have not used my hand laid track skills in 25 years (!), but they were very good back then.

The basic idea is that I can have a space 50 feet long, but only about 10 feet wide. I might have trouble expanding the loops too much bigger - at one end the main electrical panel of the building starts to get in the way. The center will be a bit more narrow at 8 feet, so a bit of a dogbone. All the interesting bits and fun are to be in the two long straight sections, each about 40 feet long. The loops on either are not really for looks, so if the train looks funny going around them, then so be it.

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Will

1:1 Railroads typically have the equivalent of O-240 (radius of 12 feet) for their tightest turns.  These are almost always spiral easements but that is what the curve would work out to if it was a circle.  This is roughly the diameter of the Spiral Tunnels on the CP Rail in the Canadian Rockies and matches up pretty closely with the balloon tracks under Grand Central and those found in other passenger yards/terminals.

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