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I have acquired some of my late father’s Lionel O gauge trains and am working to get them running again.  First I disassembled and cleaned an Erie 610 locomotive so that it’s running fairly well.  But it was a cleaning project only, no parts replacement.

Now I’m turning to the Lionel 252 locomotive.  The wheels turn reasonably easily and the whole thing needs to be cleaned.  But the flanges on a couple wheels are just flaking away so I want to replace the wheels.  I’m new to this kind of work on O gauge and have a couple of questions that will give away my status as a novice.  Please bear with me.

I have conflicting parts lists for the 252 motor assembly with one indicating a pair of SLS-35 wheels and a pair of SL-95 red spoked wheels while the other indicates a pair of SLS-35 wheels and a pair of SLS-38 wheels with gear and axle.  I have found a set of 4 SL-95 red spoked wheels on Henning’s Trains site, 2 with gear lug and 2 without.  Clearly my model does not have spoked wheels.  I cannot find the SLS-38 or SLS-35 wheels listed anywhere.  Can I replace the existing wheels with the SL-95 wheels using the existing gears?  If not, can you direct me to a place where I can buy the correct parts?

Thank you for your patience and guidance.

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@Joe Elliott you got this. It’s not a complicated process, especially for this engine. You don’t have to worry about steamer wheel quartering. Yes get the SLS-35 wheels. I buy my wheels from Hennings. I did this same replacement a few months ago.

From the big box stores buy a faucet handle puller and a woodworker vise. (See pic#1) On the puller I had to grind down one leg to better fit between the motor frame and the wheel. (See pic#2). Just pull one wheel, remove axel from frame, pull other wheel from axel, punch the gear off of the wheel.

Use the vice to press the gear on new wheel. Then set geared wheel into vice with axel perpendicular to it and press it on. Slide assembly through motor frame and use vice to press other wheel on. Check for spacing between wheel, frame and ensure gear mesh are all smooth. Than repeat and your done.

I have used this on 8s, 10s and 253 also. Just take your time and you will be fine

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Thank you all for your help and guidance.  I wasn't able to resume this project until just recently.  I got the faucet handle puller, ground down one side and was able to pull the wheels.  One of the compound gears is missing a tooth and, while it doesn't seem to be affecting overall performance, I've ordered replacements figuring that now is the time to replace them.  The brushes and other components cleaned up nicely, the armature shaft turns easily.

I'm having some trouble getting the gears off the wheels - there was a huge amount of 'gunk' built up around both the axle and teeth of the gears.  That's been cleaned and I've been able to get a thin blade between the gear and the wheel but cannot separate them and don't want to force it.  I have a couple drops of super penetrant in the thin separation between gear and wheel hoping to loosen it a bit.  Is there a preferred method for getting gears off the wheels?

Again, thanks for your help.  

The gear is pressed onto the wheel hub. I usually just work a thin blade screwdriver from side to side. The gear should just pop off. You could probably take a larger straight screwdriver and place it on the gear hub of the wheel and give it a solid blow with a hammer and I would suspect that it would crumble. Glad you were able to get this far, the rest will be easy.

Part of your issue with removing the gears from the wheels is the zinc pest issue that destroyed the wheels in the first place (info on that can be found in many previous posts on the forum).  Long story short, as the metal deteriorates it often "swells" up which probably isn't helping with removing the gears.  As Rich stated above, sacrificing the lost cause wheels is likely your safest bet to avoid bending the gears.  I did one of these for my brother years ago but I can't recall the process of transferring the gears over to the new wheels.  I did use my woodworking vice to press the new ones on as described above.

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