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I've collected and used a fair bit of old Marx track in recent years, including O34 curve pieces and the corresponding "long straights" and O34 switches. Those items have been out of production for a long time, but there is still a lot of secondhand material out there at train shows etc. "O34" has the same lower profile as O27 track.

I find the O34 curves very useful on O27 layouts, because they form concentric circles for double track with O27 curves. The track spacing is just right for typical O27-type trains of not-too-large equipment.

SCARM author Mixy has added a Marx track library to the latest version of SCARM. He has offered to add the O34 track parts if he has more info on part numbers etc. I've suggested that the generic description of "Marx O34" might be more convenient than old part numbers.

I've created O34-equivalent curves on SCARM plans by specifying 15.8" radius, 45° arc on pieces of Atlas 3-rail flex track. I measure the Marx "long straights" as 11.2 inches long. The long straights are sometimes handy in combination with other typical O27 track pieces to create track configurations with a minimum of custom-cut pieces.

I think Marx was very clever to make the O34 curves because it would complement an existing O27 layout - just add another track around an existing oval.

It would be interesting to hear more information about when Marx made the O34 curves, and if it was offered in certain sets, perhaps more premium sets with larger equipment like the E7 units.

 

Attached photos show a couple of my temporary layouts which combined O27 and O34 curves for concentric double-track curves. 

 

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I would have to look to see if either of the Greenberg books on Marx address the

034 track.  It is immediately recognizable with the five vs. three ties.  I have just

seen it in larger sets, with the E diesels, witht the 1998 switchers, and with #333

and #1829 steamers.  And many of the sets with the 1998's and E's I have seen just have the three tied O-27 track in them.  I don't know what the critera was, or was it

a time period when it became available and Marx started putting it in larger sets?

Of course, with Marx, there were always the exceptions.

Ace

When I provided the info on Marx track, I included the part numbers for the 034. I still have not compiled a list of part numbers for 027 & 034 switches. I have the info, just need to get it together.

034 track was made from 1939 thru 1963. The earliest sets that had the 034 curves, had straights were still 8-3/4 inches long like 027, but it had 5 ties. This was made from 1940-56. In 1955, the 11-1/4 inch straights started replacing the 8-3/4 inch straights.

In 1939 Marx also made wooden blocks, p/n 309, that slipped under the rails to keep 027 & 034 track evenly spaced. Somewhere I have an original box of these.

 

Steve

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Thanks Steve, that's interesting info. I imagine that SCARM author Mixy will eventually get the additional Marx track items added to the Marx track library with your input. He's been busy with many other enhancements to SCARM ...

 

I have a 333 loco which in its original form (if I remember correctly) had a binding issue with the loco to tender drawbar on O27 curves. I modified the drawbar so it could swing under the lower edges of the cab sides to negotiate O27. So I've wondered if Marx orginally intended for the 333 locos to operate on O34? I gather that the 333 was one of Marx's premium locos. Mine is a good runner, although it was in rough condition when I got it.

beardog posted:

I have a question about 034, did marx ever make 034 roadbed track

Prototypes were found in the factory items auctioned off, but never made it to production. I would have loved to had some. I’m a big fan of 034 track. One problem was the plastic 034 switches were junk. I have used the metal 027 switches and tweaked the track a bit to work.

 

steve

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