Sid’s CV Hudson ( a collaboration project!) Tales from Harmon Shops

As Pat has said this is going to be the greatest CV in the planet in 3 rail o scale. I am very happy with Pat's work so far. Amazing work with the whistle and the stripping for painting. Way beyond anything I could ever do. Now what will make this the best CV ever will be the combination of Pat's craftsmanship and paint work combined with my electronic work. I am going to be installing Legacy with whistle steam in this locomotive. It is going to amazing when complete. Can't wait to see more.

Thanks Pat

Sid

Ok, ill bite... what does CV stand for? When I see CV I immediately think Central Vermont RR. Am I correct or am I missing something?

@prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Ok, ill bite... what does CV stand for? When I see CV I immediately think Central Vermont RR. Am I correct or am I missing something?

Commodore Vanderbilt

Thanks for the clarification. So far the job looks great.

Hey Harmonshops, please check your email if you get a chance. Thank you.

@prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Thanks for the clarification. So far the job looks great.

Hey Harmonshops, please check your email if you get a chance. Thank you.

Got it,..

Pat

Since today was such a pretty day to paint,…I went ahead and shot the paint on Sid’s boiler shell…..after blasting and washing, the shell was abated with scotchbrite, soap and water. I do not believe in painting over blasted metal,..but that’s my belief, y’all’s results are yours,….I’m a firm believer in an abated surface for materials to have a place to bite onto,…..so here’s my take on what I believe the correct color for a CV Hudson should be,….I’ve worked closely with my DuPont rep to come up with this formula,…this is no rattle can job, this is a urethane finish sprayed from a gun,…the pics may not be in order,…but I’ve tried to take pics in the best light this old IPad will do,…for comparison, Sid’s shell is sat next to the grossly wrong silver model ,……The top coat color is spayed over a light black base to convey the color I’m looking for ,…..it’s obviously darker than the silver model by Lionel, but just a wee bit lighter than the dark charcoal model that they did after the bright silver ……now to watch paint dry, and get on to something else,..😉

Pat

What kind of upgrades is the fox body Mustang in for? Don't tell me five lug conversion because it already has it.

Looks fantastic!

@Randy_B posted:

What kind of upgrades is the fox body Mustang in for? Don't tell me five lug conversion because it already has it.

That notchback in the picture is a disaster area going to a place to happen,….which is a shame, cause it is a solid car, just too many hands have touched it, and the owner can’t afford to do the correct work to it,…..unfortunately, it’s in the outgoing mailbox, he’ll find someone else to continue hacking the car to death,….not me, do it right or get it out of my sight,..😉

Pat

@Randy_B posted:

What kind of upgrades is the fox body Mustang in for? Don't tell me five lug conversion because it already has it.

This is the kind of work we do on a daily basis,…clean & accurate,..😉

Pat

Interesting. A carbureted pushrod small block in place of the modular 3V!

@Randy_B posted:

Interesting. A pushrod small block in place of the modular 3V!

Look again Randy,….that’s an awfully big small block,…🤣🤣🤣

Pat

Oh you're right. Is that a Cleveland in there or a big block? I'm mostly familiar with the EFI five liters and the modulars that came after them.

@Randy_B posted:

Oh you're right. Is that a Cleveland in there or a big block? I'm mostly familiar with the EFI five liters and the modulars that came after them.

We’d better stop there on this thread buddy, the cops are gonna get us,…but it’s just to convey custom work can be done neat & clean, just like the trains,….

it is indeed a true 429 big block DOVE engine from a Torino Cobra ☺️

Pat

Nice. Anemic modular bore spacing got a big boost there. Nice work and looks really clean. Thanks for not putting V-belts on it!

Now back to our regularly scheduled program...

The car looks great!!  Back to the regularly scheduled program.

The repair and paint on Sid's CV looks fantastic!  As Sid wrote, I can't paint that well either.   As we talked, I know you have another engine that needs a repaint.  The CV looks fantastic compared to the lightly weathered Hudson.   

That first paint picture the shell looks black, but I suppose it is just the lighting and contrast, because after that it looks like a dark metallic grey.

@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

That first paint picture the shell looks black, but I suppose it is just the lighting and contrast, because after that it looks like a dark metallic grey.

Dave, …the pic you’re referring to is indeed black,…I laid down a black base coat before applying the top color coat, doing so yields a darker looking top coat. When my paint rep and I discussed painting the model, we both agreed working on thin black base, would result in a much finer finish, less color application, and thus less details get obliterated by thick paint,….a little painting magic 101 ,….😉

Pat

Looking really good so far guys, i'm looking forward to seeing this all come together !

Alex

@harmonyards posted:

Dave, …the pic you’re referring to is indeed black,…I laid down a black base coat before applying the top color coat, doing so yields a darker looking top coat. When my paint rep and I discussed painting the model, we both agreed working on thin black base, would result in a much finer finish, less color application, and thus less details get obliterated by thick paint,….a little painting magic 101 ,….😉

Pat

I had heard something somewhere about painting to use certain color choices for whatever the end result would be. Of course I don't even remember what I saw that on, just knew that it was painting either figures, scenery, or some other such thing related to details of models.

Pat that looks great! Shoulda just sent you my cv shell to spray!

That looks great!  I have a second shell that I need to swap onto my frame, that I put all my work into.

This in-depth look into additional details should help too... https://ogrforum.com/...mmodore-vanderbilt-1

When you reattach the front plaque, it needs to be up higher than the original location that Lionel location...

If you look at where the stock plaque is, and some google photos, you can see that it's up higher closer to the smokebox access hatch.

Here's where I put mine (all pictures below my own).

Don't forget the scale pilot truck and add brake beams.

ATS shoe on the tender truck...

Cold water feed pump on fireman's side...

Keep up the great work!

(Yes, I still have to swap the shell... I know.)

@CentralFan1976 …I plan on doing pretty much the same upgrades you did on yours,…I’ve studied your thread numerous times…..you did beautiful work on yours,….hopefully I can keep up the mojo!..😉

Pat

@Dennis Holler posted:

Pat that looks great! Shoulda just sent you my cv shell to spray!

Dennis, I still need to shoot Sid’s tender,…hurry up and strip them down and get me your shells,…😉…I can paint them all at once,…

Pat

A little more progress on Sid’s CV paint work….I went ahead and knocked out the delicate stripe work….we’ll let this cure up, and then it’s time for lettering,…I’m liking what I’m seeing,..

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

A little more progress on Sid’s CV paint work….I went ahead and knocked out the delicate stripe work….we’ll let this cure up, and then it’s time for lettering,…I’m liking what I’m seeing,..

Pat

That is no joke. That is better than factory. Great work Pat. Outstanding!!

The stripes look perfect!

@Mark Boyce posted:

The stripes look perfect!

Thanks Mark!

Pat

That is some dang great metallic color there Pat. Bravo!

Sid’s CV chassis is ready for some testing now, ….the cat will be out of the bag for those who know what you’re looking at. Sid’s going full Legacy, so I’ve been tasked to fit the encoder & ring flywheel in an already tight confine, and make it serviceable…..the flywheel is a one off scratch built unit, and naturally, I like high polished parts to showcase the efforts, The new driveshaft is double jointed slip yolk design, again, custom fitted to Sid’s application,….I’ve also tuned in the gearbox by arranging the shim packs for optimum performance,……everything fits neatly in the CV’s shell,….probably the worst part of the job is cleaning out all that nasty, dried up hard as rocks grease ….yuk!..

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

Sid’s CV chassis is ready for some testing now, ….the cat will be out of the bag for those who know what you’re looking at. Sid’s going full Legacy, so I’ve been tasked to fit the encoder & ring flywheel in an already tight confine, and make it serviceable…..the flywheel is a one off scratch built unit, and naturally, I like high polished parts to showcase the efforts, The new driveshaft is double jointed slip yolk design, again, custom fitted to Sid’s application,….I’ve also tuned in the gearbox by arranging the shim packs for optimum performance,……everything fits neatly in the CV’s shell,….probably the worst part of the job is cleaning out all that nasty, dried up hard as rocks grease ….yuk!..

Pat

That looks outstanding. Can't wait to put my electronics into it.

Looks great, Pat!!!

@Mark Boyce posted:

Looks great, Pat!!!

Thanks Mark, ….Sid will be able to pull stumps out of the ground with this Hudson,…..😉

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

Thanks Mark, ….Sid will be able to pull stumps out of the ground with this Hudson,…..😉

Pat

👍🏻👍🏻

This is why some of us go bizerk building this stuff,…..keep in mind this engine started out as a Pulmor growler, with the added Pittman and tuned gear box, this is what we now have,……result!!…this means speed step 1 will be nice and smooth when Sid adds his electronics!..

Pat

Love it.

@CentralFan1976 posted:

Love it.

Hopefully you’ll approve of this …..your attention to detail on the CV you’ve built, has pushed me to do an equally good job,…..here’s a sneak peak on how things are shaping up,……note we spent quite a bit of time working on the correct lettering size, spacing, and coloring true to the CV prototype,……I’ll be adding some further details as you’ve pointed out, and some advise from Pete as he’s my go-to for all things NYC ( I never claimed to know it all ) …let the opinions fly!….let’s have some fun,….for a change,…😉

Pat

It’s a great looking engine!  I’m sure you are doing everything the way Pete recommends.

That sure looks......... EXCELLENT! Holy Toledo, that is one heck of an engine in the making. Hmm, somewhere upstairs there's two of mine. Well, it'll have to wait for now, but in the future.