Was this primarily a freight or passenger car carrier.
Considering weathering
If freight did the SP ever allow these engines to get very dirty/rusty.
Thank you
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@daylight posted:Was this primarily a freight or passenger car carrier.
Passenger steam locomotive.
Considering weathering
If freight did the SP ever allow these engines to get very dirty/rusty.
Rarely handled freight, and then only in their last year of service (they were pained black by then, with the skirts removed), and no,,,,,,,they didn't get all that dirty, nor "rusty".
Thank you
Mostly Passenger in the 1940's. Mostly freight in the 1950's, although two Daylight trains used steam through the mid-1950's.
SP's locomotive maintenance was a conundrum. The passenger engines, both steam and diesel, were usually very clean, whereas freight engines were seen in an array of external maintenance ranging from reasonably clean, to filthy.
In the 1950's, most SP mainline steam engines in freight service were not often washed, and accumulated scale on the boiler jacket, as well as some soot. Small, branch line steam engines appeared to be less "weathered".
The exception was steam power regularly assigned to passenger service. As much as SP wanted to get rid of its passenger service, it still provided clean locomotives and cars, right to the very end.
@daylight posted:Was this primarily a freight or passenger car carrier.
Considering weathering
If freight did the SP ever allow these engines to get very dirty/rusty.
Thank you
Thank you Hot Water . Will proceed
@Number 90 posted:Mostly Passenger in the 1940's. Mostly freight in the 1950's, although two Daylight trains used steam through the mid-1950's.
SP's locomotive maintenance was a conundrum. The passenger engines, both steam and diesel, were usually very clean, whereas freight engines were seen in an array of external maintenance ranging from reasonably clean, to filthy.
In the 1950's, most SP mainline steam engines in freight service were not often washed, and accumulated scale on the boiler jacket, as well as some soot. Small, branch line steam engines appeared to be less "weathered".
The exception was steam power regularly assigned to passenger service. As much as SP wanted to get rid of its passenger service, it still provided clean locomotives and cars, right to the very end.
Thank you Number 90. Will proceed
@daylight posted:Was this primarily a freight or passenger car carrier.
Considering weathering
If freight did the SP ever allow these engines to get very dirty/rusty.
Thank you
They were also used in commuter train service, late in life, in the San Francisco area.
Also - the Internet, where we are right now, and who's only real value is research, contains photos of these locos - just search "Southern Pacific 4-8-4 photos" or the like.
There have also been written numerous books on the SP Golden State/General Service type. The GS-1 was different from the rest.
