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Good morning, and welcome to STEAMday Sunday, where you can post photos and videos  of your favorite steam locomotives,  and tell us about them.

Just remember to follow the Forum Terms of Service and post only those photos and videos you have taken or those in which you have the written permission of the owner to post.

I will now share with you a couple of videos I took last night of my best steamer: a Lionel Legacy NY Central 10 wheeler with whistle steam. Here she is, rolling down the line hauling 3 NY Central passenger cars, reminiscent of The Put:

About 2 weeks ago, I ran the same steamer on my layout pulling six 15 inch NY Central passenger cars. When I did that, both traction tires spun off the rims of the driving wheels and got tangled in the rods.

I assumed that I would need to replace those traction tires, but it turns out that I didn't need to do so. Instead, I carefully and patiently untangled the tires and re-positioned them in the grooves of the wheels. Also, I substantially lightened the load by having the locomotive hauling three 12 inch passenger cars (running 3 cars  is more typical of The Put anyway), and the train ran fine.

Later on today, I will post another video of the same train in a different section of my layout.

Now, let's see what you have.

Arnold

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Hello, steam crazies!  Today I’m going to continue the New Haven theme I started on SwSat yesterday, but I also received inspiration from Putnam Division’s “screwdriver express”.

Let’s follow the screwdriver express with a beer train!  NH 0-6-0 no. 2334 is pulling loads of beer from the Narragansett Brewery in Providence, RI.  No. 2334 is an Allas model converted to MTH PS3.  The conversion became necessary when I broke the original tether using “unnecessary force”, a mistake a I won’t repeat!

John

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Long Island Rail Road #18 is a Lionel Legacy model (2131420, $649.99) of a Camelback 4-6-0 Ten-Wheeler steam locomotive that runs well, is reasonably priced, and looks very much like its LIRR prototype. Unfortunately, the sound volume cannot be adjusted under conventional control but it’s not loud enough for me. I’ve expressed my opinion to Lionel but their reply was not responsive to my concern. As far as I know, MTH Railking and Premier locomotives still have a sound volume adjustment on the bottom of the tender, and I would like Lionel to have one too.

In the late 1800s, the Long Island Rail Road had a fleet of Camelback locomotives and even after becoming a subsidiary of the Pennsylvania Railroad in 1900, the LIRR continued to purchase Camelbacks from commercial manufacturers. #18 belonged Class G-54a. It was built by Baldwin in 1903 and retired by 1931. The Class G-54a engines had 72-inch driving wheels and hauled high-speed Limiteds from Jamaica to the Hamptons on Eastern Long Island that were assigned to the most senior engineers on the LIRR. In 1924, the LIRR honored engineer James Eichhorn by painting his name on the cab of locomotive #18, as seen on Lionel’s model.

Photos and videos show LIRR #18 in conventional operation on my 12’-by-8’ model railroad pulling MTH Premier LIRR wood-sided coaches #251 and #253.

MELGAR

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MELGAR, you might want to consider taking your engine to someone with TMCC or Legacy to adjust the volume.  I don’t know if the new setting would carry over to conventional with Lionel, but it does with MTH DCS.  I had a diesel with a prime mover volume that pleased my ears, but the horn was weak.  A friend with DCS turned up the horn volume and the setting was retained in conventional.

Last, is your engine new enough to be equipped with Lionchief?  If yes, you could download the Lionchief app to your phone and adjust the volume with it (and enjoy f running your engine with it, too).

John

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Long Island Rail Road #18 is a Lionel Legacy model (2131420, $649.99) of a Camelback 4-6-0 Ten-Wheeler steam locomotive that runs well, is reasonably priced, and looks very much like its LIRR prototype. Unfortunately, the sound volume cannot be adjusted under conventional control but it’s not loud enough for me. I’ve expressed my opinion to Lionel but their reply was not responsive to my concern. As far as I know, MTH Railking and Premier locomotives still have a sound volume adjustment on the bottom of the tender, and I would like Lionel to have one too.

MELGAR

Melgar,

    Lionel usually puts the volume knob in the tender hatch well that’d where all my Legacy steam engines have theirs.

JohnB

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@JohnB,

I appreciate your suggestion - but there is no openable tender hatch or (conventional) volume control on this engine.

MELGAR

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...gacy%20Camelback.pdf

Melgar,

    I looked at the Camelback’s manual (attached) and there is no volume control knob however if you have a Apple phone you can download the Lionchief apt and adjust overall volume levels as well as individual sounds such as whistle, bell, chuff etc on page 23.

JohnB

Thanks Arnold for firing up the boiler and getting us rolling today!   Here are my SDS contributions.  

N&W J Class 611 makes a grand entrance!   ( scale Lionel model from 2005 ) IMG_0815

MOW workers keep working as the J bursts forth from the tunnel. IMG_0830

B&O Docksider blasts a plume of smoke rounding the bend in this bucolic scene.  IMG_0135

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https://www.lionelsupport.com/...gacy%20Camelback.pdf

Melgar,

    I looked at the Camelback’s manual (attached) and there is no volume control knob however if you have a Apple phone you can download the Lionchief apt and adjust overall volume levels as well as individual sounds such as whistle, bell, chuff etc on page 23.

JohnB

@JohnB,

Thanks again for the advice. I will look at that. However, when I go downstairs to my layouts, my purpose is to run trains, not to play with my phone, electronics or a computer. And, what if I don't have an I-Phone? I paid the same price for the engine as a buyer who has a Legacy system. I have two expensive transformers powering the layout. Why shouldn't I just as easily be able to adjust the sound volume? So, I reiterate my comment: I think a costly Lionel engine (that is built to run under conventional control as well as Legacy) needs to have a manual sound volume adjustment.

I have another Legacy steamer on order. I'm looking forward to it, but...

MELGAR

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Well, I know that you all love those beautiful scale like HUGE locomotives and so do I, but I also like the "old guys" from the earlier days of our hobby so I decided to post one of my favorites today. This is a HAFNER, the company somewhat famous (or infamous) because Hafner never produced electric trains, the founder (who's philosophy was continued by his son created a legacy that lasted from 1914 to 1957) believed electric trains were too expensive to be used as a toy.  Hence all Hafner trains are clockwork.  This is the 1110 locomotive, designed for the Chicago World's Fair "Century of Progress" held 1933-1935.  This engine was sold with the popular "Century of Progress Special" sets made by Hafner for sale during the fair.

The engine has a battery powered light (sorry I don't have the correct bulb) where the batteries are housed in the boiler.  The key is removable

Hafner 1110 loco front quarter view

Seen here is the brake lever extending out of the rear of the cab and the bell clapper that was activated by a track mounted trip.

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Obviously she would have been a shiny black all over and the paint has worn off in many places but the motor still runs when wound and she can still pull 2-3 cars around my mostly flat circular set up.

Best wishes and Happy Steamday Sunday

Don

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Obviously she would have been a shiny black all over and the paint has worn off in many places but the motor still runs when wound and she can still pull 2-3 cars around my mostly flat circular set up.

Best wishes and Happy Steamday Sunday

Don

Don,

If possible, I would like to see a video of that. I've never seen a clockwork engine run.

MELGAR

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