Sunset FT warbonnet ATSF Santa Fe

You just had to rub my nose in the fact that I forgot to send my order in for them didn't you! Lol   d*mn it How many times do I gotta kick myself for missing out on those.

 

Great job on those 3rd Rail!

I think some will end up on the market in time. Keep looking.

http://youtu.be/7IJ7cZlYvic
I will take some further videos- just a teaser of Jeff's layout

Beautiful. Thanks, Erik.  Keep 'em coming.

What a beautiful layout & an FEF-1 to start the show, doesn't get any better for me.

 

Thanks, can't wait to see more of it.

Ouch! It sounded like something jumped near the end.

Any videos of those NYC units on the table??

Very nice.

 I just noticed you can't click the "like" button on the first or original post?

So I'll say I LIKE! on those SFs pictures.

That's great engineer Joe.

That video was nice, what a beautiful FEF.  Thanks

THANKS CHRIS!

Awesome Erik! ncng

Jeff does beautiful layouts!  Nebraska's loss is Colorado's gain!

 

Is there something wrong with Jeff's? They look the same as your set? The chrome bezel around the headlight needs attention but out the box they look fantastic.



       

 

Those are definitely not the same  I'm guessing Key ?? Red is brighter, chrome bezels, red nose grab irons, body mounted steps, red windshield wipers, no air hose on the pilot, silver cab step plates. Quite a few differences.

I'm guessing Key ??

I guess some of them are coming through.  Superb!

 

Regarding the color, I've seen the red used on the Sunset FT's photograph differently depending on the picture.  It is a very good choice of red.  It's not dull in the least and is a good match for the best prototypical Warbonnet photos I've seen.  I hope they use the same red for the F7's.

 

Another take on the Sunset red.

 

 

Overland late 90's run. Ahhhh- "fooled me!"

Nice work Scott on a fine model (the plastic FT topic of this thread) I like the sunset windshield sculpt.

Your photo is a small file size -pixelated and without seeing the detail I guessed they were "got mine today" I assumed they were sunset. Hahah ;-P

Key Model Import's FT's are still a month out. Inspections are next week in Korea. They far exceed OMI and the Sunset pieces.

Key Model Import's FT's are still a month out.

That's what I'm hearing.

 

They far exceed OMI and the Sunset pieces.

 

I've seen a couple of early sample, photos.  They look great.

Hey Howard I love the photo with the two together they are spectacular.

For the money I feel the sunset FT's are easily the best in the market today.

For the money I feel the sunset FT's are easily the best in the market today.

I agree.  They just need a few tweeks.  My first was painting the front coupler silver on the passenger units, because it was a no brainer.  Ladders, drawbars, etc. next.  

 

I'm thrilled with these units.  I can't wait to start using DCC.  Austin Bill provided some great insight into the DCC process.  Using conventional DC, I'm very pleased.  Much better than the Atlas F's I have.  

 

For the record I should have been more clear. I was complimenting Scott on building an out of the box plastic ready to roll model that clearly holds its own in comparison to a hand finished pro-paint brass import that easily cost you 3 times what Scott's model cost these guys. A tough thing to stomach.

       

All opinion---

On this note: "I was complimenting Scott on building an out of the box plastic ready to roll model that clearly holds its own in comparison to a hand finished pro-paint brass import that easily cost you 3 times what Scott's model cost these guys. A tough thing to stomach. "

This dynamic of plastic release destroying the brass market is no stranger to other scales. N brass has all but evaporated due to Kato and the like.

I am pro-brass you know this about me. But I'm also pro-correct model made of resin, brass, plastic, abs, or whatever you want to call it. It makes no difference to me.

Sunset is changing the 1/48 scale market. Your OMI custom finished model is likely one of a very few that will hold its value because of its professional talent finish and care to authenticity and detail; meanwhile the non-paint and custom paint and painted crowd out there will likely dwindle- $500-$600 range per unit and even lower once the Key Model Imports pieces get here next month. Frankly I'm concerned for the future value of these models despite the intense nature of quality these will possess. The market just will not support it with much lower cost alternatives available to the buyer.

I love your model it's wonderful. Truly an exemplary piece worthy of any collectors prize or ATSF buff. The Atlas CZ is another example of a possible ouch--. Just look what happened to the Challenger Imports CZ; once a $5000-$7000 set now reduced to a $2400 set because of Broadway Limited's BLI plated CZ in plastic.  

Step aside all this and we will still find that one buyer or two that wants and demands the absolute best of the best no matter the cost. I sympathize with this buyer he or she is a aficionado and loves every detail- Every detail no matter how small.

To quote what a gentleman said in a post on the now locked Atlas HO forum:

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Dave Plummer
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Brass is something that Walmart shoppers just don't get....along with any measure of class.

Dave

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Originally posted by GTIRR

$900.00 FOR ONE ENGINE!!!!!! YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME????
Does it have the handrails and air hoses hollowed out?
Does it come with DCC and sound?
How about hot and cold running ***?
What a joke!!!!
And to think of how many fine Atlas units with DCC and sound
you could have had.....
gtirr


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Well said, Erik!!!  A thoughtful assessment of the present and projected market dynamics..

 

For me anyway --- Scott occupies the "sweet spot" in the middle between the two extremes with appropriate detail and correctness and excellent performance right out of the box and at competitive price. 

 

But, to each his own. It's the best of times in O Scale IMO.  Lotsa choices.  Something for everybody these days. 

 I keep seeing examples of a GE Dash Sunset engine popping up at times for sale. The last couple of times it was three rail so I passed.

 Were there other modern diesel models they released? If not was that a test of the market back then or something else happened???

And to think I grew up in Calif. and visiting San Bernadino I would go out to the tracks under an overpass and watch Santa FEs coming and going to cajon pass. Loved the SD24s but was always impressed with the red bonnet. Gawd awful beautiful. I just don't know what happened as I ended up modeling the UP. I guess it was the BIG power they used vs many engines hooked together as both companies ran on the same tracks. I could see some SF hook ups 10 or 15 engines being moved down the hill. But must say these new models are stunning and those able to buy them very lucky.

 

Phil

 

There are still a few Warbonnet sets available and a lot of late SF freight.  But zero early ATSF freight.  Seems a number of the clueless types got their late freight models and went "this is wrong, blah, blah, blah" and complained to Scott who replaced them with the early units; until he ran out.

 

You can lead a horse to water but... 

I do not see any FT diesel inventory currently listed on Sunsets site.

You have to call them about the FT's