SUPERLINER

p51 posted:

jpv69 posted:

------> P51,

I refer to your post of the last 30th of june; here is how I imagine the bedroom areas in the 2nd car(it's not yet complete; lacks the upper bed):

But it's not for tomorrow.....later...later! 

jpv

 

Maybe the design changed over the years, but the roomettes I rode in last year lacked that center white pillar (which I have no idea what it is from your graphics). Maybe the earlier ones had a different look to them? If you want, I think I might have taken some photos of the roomettes if you'd need any later on.

That's because what you are looking at are bedrooms, not roomettes.  Bedrooms have a combination toilet/shower which is what you see.

Ah, I never saw anything that looked like this on my trip...

RDUNNIII is right; these are bedrooms, not roomettes; the drawing is not yet made; I will show you when it will be done.

jpv

Today my "3D guy" brought me the prototype for the seats; it looks fine:

It remains to paint and glue the pieces together!

If you are interested for filling empty cars, it's perhaps the solution......

I have fitted the on/off switches on the end paltforms but also reinforced them because they are above the trucks and they will support the weight of the car!

I will connect the wires tomorrow.

jpv

Today, electricity!

The lower level first; only one strip of LED (22 cm long); it's enough; connected to the battery and switch with 2,5 mm banana pins:

And now some other shots to see the result (sorry for the first one: I had not seen the soldering iron! I'm a bad photographer as I already said )

Tomorrow, I will connect the second platform for the upper level and glue the floor to the partitions of the lower level; but the roof is not yet made; like that, all will be ready when it will be done.

jpv

That lighting is so nice!!

Dan Weinhold

Thanks, Dan!

Now, all is glued, all is connected; the pins on the first level floor are waiting for roof lighting.

Always the soldering iron!!! he likes to be on the photos!!! 

I cut the back of the battery supports; so I can glue them on the end platforms and I also can remove the battery easily:

See you soon!

jpv in France

Hello,

Today's information: I have got the price from my "3D guy" for the seats: a complete set for a coach car is 20€ (shipping not included). I think it's a good price; you can contact me if interested; I will give you his mail and phone. It's not an advertising.

-----> P51: here are the roomettes; is it what you saw on your trip?

JPV

jpv69 posted:

-----> P51: here are the roomettes; is it what you saw on your trip?

JPV

YEP, just missing the upper bunk folded up, just above the windows. But yeah, that's it.

I have to admit, if I modeled the modern era and standard gauge, I'd do what you're doing (though probably not as well) to build a model of the superliner we rode on the Empire Builder almost exactly one year ago now...

I wanted to ask about the posters in the car here:

Have Superliners ever carried posters from the past like these? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I wanted to know if they ever used these because all I ever saw was posters for modern other Amtrak trains, like these:

Great modeling, I am seriously impressed with your work on this car. Such a shame that so much of the detail will never be seen from the outside...

Many thanks for your comments, Sir! and for the invisible details inside I let my imagination work.

I never fitted in a superliner so I don't know if all the posters are modern or ancient! but I found this photo on the net:

I hope this drawing remember you your trip!

jpv in France

The proto seat is done; I'm waiting for the 36 remaining.......

It was a long time from my last post; the reason is that I had a big default squaring when I made the assembly; I had to unglue most of the pieces end re-glue them after and it was perilous to do! now all is right and I'm more easy! 

The second car will not be built in the same way, sure! the modifications are already written and drawn!

jpv

It looks comfy, JP.

I found working with styrene, that it can slide out of place even hours after the initial joint is made.  Any slight tension - even gravity, can cause it to move.  I try to wait 24 hours before un-clamping.

Spectacular 

thank you Erik! it's very kind!

Yes, Max, it is! I have tried it! 

Something certainly moves while gluing...and I din't notice! next time I will be more attentive!

jp

I received yesterday all the seats in separate parts but placed together for four seats; great moment !

Today, beginning of painting while the sun shines on my terrace!

Next step: assembly; I am busy for several days....

See you soon!

jpv in France

This afternoon (here!), beginning of assembly: here is an exploded view of a complete piece of two seats:

There is a left and a right seat; they are fitted on the foot with the two little strips (in green) which trip over the edges of the horizontal and vertical parts of the foot; so the seats are well lined up on the foot; the photos below show the assembly of these parts:

at last some assembled seats without the armrests and back (painted but drying!):

jpv

WOW!

Thanks, Ron!

Now, some more photos; the lower level is waiting for passengers!

That's all for today!

jpv in France

Fantastic job!

Just awesome !

Many thanks, Ron and for the those who click on the "like heart" 

Now it's time for the upper level!

jpv

Sorry, Bobby, 'forgot you! ; many thanks to you

jpv

Seats factory flyover...Lack the backs of the seats for those in construction; my "3D guy" re-print them; they were wrong.

jpv69

Beginning the fitting out of the upper level. The other seats are ready but I don't yet received the back parts.... and I need them to install the armrests!! so, I'm waiting.....

jpv

Really interesting to see the progression of this car come to life. I assuming you are leaving the outer sides and car ends off until you paint them. I can't see how one would otherwise accomplish the outside painting of the cars with all this interior detail.

All of this is for ONE car.  Wow.  A lot of work.  Looks great though!

PRRHSC----> Thanks. The outer side on the photo is just put with wedges to have the seats at the right place inside the car following this drawing:

Sides, ends and the roof will be painted separately.

Paul----> Thanks; yes it's a lot of work but it's interesting, even funny to do! a lot of patience too!

jpv in France

Nice to see the build coming together. Might have missed it, have you thought what the paint will be?

Thanks, BOBBYD; I made my first attempt for painting two days ago; cleaning of a piece of styrène then first coat of primer and paint (TAMIYA TS17 - gloss aluminium spray) -I have no air brush; the result: not too bad but not like I thought...I will try again; perhaps I have to add gloss dulcoat after....Tomorrow is another day!

jpv

Hi JP

I use Tamiya out of the can.  The dull coat can makes the silver change to a flat grey.

Try a piece of scrap first.  If you want to retain the metallic look, don't use the matt finish spray.

Cheers

Hi Max,

That was a piece of scrap. I didn't want to ruin a whole side!

And I will follow your advice for dull coat. 

jp

jpv69 posted:

Now, some more photos; the lower level is waiting for passengers!

I am uniquely impressed with your work. If you put passengers in these seats, they'll have to be the best figures you can find as this car deserves them.

I've said it here already, but it's a shame that all this detail will not be easily seen when it is all completed. Before you place both sides on the car permanently, you need to get some good "cut out view" photos of this car when the interior is complete.

Amazing modeling!

Both sides and the roof will be a single and removable piece (you can look at the specifications I posted at the beginning of this thread). So I have a permanent access to the inside of the car.

For the second one (sleeping car); the way to build it will be different, but always with access to inside; I will talk about it later...

jpv

Hi all,

I have noticed recently that a rivet strip was laid along the face; luckily, the paint was not yet done! so I decided to put these rivets like the real photo shows; they are from Micromark as raised decals. The most difficult was to line up them!

Now, I can paint!

After that, I re-do the different markings for the car with OPEN OFFICE software. I don't yet know if I print the decorative blue and red strips on paper (the easiest way) or on decal paper (one more time more difficulties to line up and the least default will be seen on such a lenght). These files are PDF; hope you can read them.

jpv

You really are going to a lot of trouble, JP.  It will be well worth it.

Those PDF's look excellent.

Are you planning more cars, enough to make a train?

Thanks, Max; sure, it's not easy to do but I like this work!

Make a train! no! a second car, yes, a sleeping car.

First I have to finish this one and there is yet work to do!! but I'm having fun with! 

jp

Hello all,

Yon can now reserve the seat you prefer and have a good trip! 

Sorry, the last one is a little blurred!

jpv in France

Fantastic 

Many thanks, Eric (and Max for the like button!).

Now, I'm waiting for the wheels and bearings I ordered to NWSL.

Painting is difficult now; the weather is too cold on my terrace and inside an apartment, it's not easy! perhaps next week; the weather forecast say that temperatures would increase.....

jp

3D pieces arrive today!

the roof parts:

Once assembly is done (not glued yet): these pieces will be covered by 2 sheeets of styrene 0,25 mm thick.

Parts for the ends of the car:

The way I will fit the roof and the ends:

And now, the "coffee machine" (I don't know exactly the word for this piece!) on the upper level:

This piece will not be painted; several colors on a little surface area! no! so, I will put on a decorated sheet of self adhesive paper, fitted to the size of the piece:

A little blurred.....

Now, it's time to work!!!

See you soon

jpv in France