@Melvin P posted:Definatly made some fanasy units. To the best of my knowledge, UP was the only road to use them.
Nope, they’re all based on real life examples…especially the department of defense Veranda. 
-Eric
That’s good to know. I thought that the Alaskan and the Rio Grande were fantasy. If had known I would have gotten the Rio Grande.
@ericstrains.com posted:Nope, they’re all based on real life examples…especially the department of defense Veranda.
-Eric
That DoD is my very favorite of the bunch!
@ericstrains.com posted:Nope, they’re all based on real life examples…especially the department of defense Veranda.
-Eric
A 1950 Westinghouse 4000-horsepower gas turbine demonstrator was tested on several railroads in both passenger and freight service, but had no buyers. In 1949, however, the Union Pacific had already placed in service as its No. 50 (though the UP never actually owned it), a 4500-horsepower double-cabbed demonstrator built by General Electric in 1948 in cooperation with the American Locomotive Company. It had four two-axle trucks. Ten more units, Nos. 51-60, were delivered to Union Pacific beginning in 1952; they had the same wheel arrangement as No. 50 (which was returned to the builders), but had a cab at only one end.
Beginning in 1954, GE delivered the second-generation units, Nos. 61-75. These differed from the earlier group in having a recessed walkway along the side; hence they were popularly styled "verandas." The third generation of gas turbines, Nos. 1-30, were delivered from 1958-1961. These 8500-horsepower locomotives were in two units, each having two three-axle trucks; the turbine prime mover was located in the second unit, while the first unit carried the diesel generator.
@Stephen G posted:That’s good to know. I thought that the Alaskan and the Rio Grande were fantasy. If had known I would have gotten the Rio Grande.
A 1950 Westinghouse 4000-horsepower gas turbine demonstrator was tested on several railroads in both passenger and freight service, but had no buyers. In 1949, however, the Union Pacific had already placed in service as its No. 50 (though the UP never actually owned it), a 4500-horsepower double-cabbed demonstrator built by General Electric in 1948 in cooperation with the American Locomotive Company. It had four two-axle trucks. Ten more units, Nos. 51-60, were delivered to Union Pacific beginning in 1952; they had the same wheel arrangement as No. 50 (which was returned to the builders), but had a cab at only one end.
Beginning in 1954, GE delivered the second-generation units, Nos. 61-75. These differed from the earlier group in having a recessed walkway along the side; hence they were popularly styled "verandas." The third generation of gas turbines, Nos. 1-30, were delivered from 1958-1961. These 8500-horsepower locomotives were in two units, each having two three-axle trucks; the turbine prime mover was located in the second unit, while the first unit carried the diesel generator.
@zhubl posted:Dang it I was hoping someone would say the spacers go in the locomotive 😅
Mine was at the club today, and 20 min in it took off like a bat outta H***. Damaged 5 of my PFE reefers. No reset or anything fixed. Sounds like a call to Lionel Monday. Speed step 1 and it’s off and gone, then the only way to shut it down is kill power
I see from this thread that you've had your engine apart and maybe you have diagnosed the fault - as a board issue? I haven't run my one yet but on opening the box, I found that some metal piping on the roof had been dislodged and one end of this has a wire leading down into the shell. I have a vague memory that the TMCC Veranda had the same arrangement for its command control antenna, and you had to be careful about handling that because it could lead to signal issues. If the antenna on yours has got dislodged/disconnected, might that not account for your jackrabbit starts?
Only asking because I am hoping that there is no latent board defect in these models.
Yes I opened it hoping to find something simple but it wouldn’t go in reverse and I had no other signal issues I could start it up and get all sounds. I hope I just have a isolated incident but it definitely seams like 2 of the drive FETs short when they are activated. When I tried everything with rollers so it wouldn’t zoom off I started to get a noticeable heat from 2 FETs.
I can confirm the antenna is the pipe that is on the roof towards the back of the locomotive
I called Lionel yesterday talked with Aaron and got my RA it sounds like yesterday they launched a new system so I’m supposed to actually receive update emails through the warranty process so I’ll be interested to see if this actually works
Update
I got my turbine back today very thing looks good and runs good now. Packing in the box looked as good as factory and nothing came out broke.
I did receive a couple of emails through the process with the new system. 2-3 weeks after it had arrived I received one that said they just received the product, I suspect that is when a tech was actually able to get to it and start the process. Then I got a email when they were done with it then another when it was headed back my way.
I always double box any locomotive as anyone that’s seen a shipping carton after FedEx or UPS gets their hands on it no wonder things show up broke. They shipped it back in the same manner with my second box to help protect the locomotive.
Everything worked out of the box they replaced the LCP3 board as suspected, hopefully I’ll get to go back to the club soon with it
