Just came across this video on YouTube from Legacy Station of the new Lionel Legacy Veranda locomotives! This particular one is of the Union Pacific #69!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ypg6dtwsEzE
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Nice! I didn't get one but I've been excited to see how these come out. Looks like a beefy unit!
The video speaks volumes, quite literally. Mine should be here Wednesday from Legacy Station
One quibble, shouldn't the diesel cut out when the turbine cuts in? The diesel ran throughout that little demo.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:One quibble, shouldn't the diesel cut out when the turbine cuts in? The diesel ran throughout that little demo.
Correct. The diesel served two purposes. 1: Provide power to move the locomotive around the yard with the turbine off. 2: To start the turbine. There's no reason to keep the diesel running once the turbine is running.
Rusty
I'll be interested to see if I get the Rio grande I ordered to pull my ski passenger set.
@Rusty Traque posted:Correct. The diesel served two purposes. 1: Provide power to move the locomotive around the yard with the turbine off. 2: To start the turbine. There's no reason to keep the diesel running once the turbine is running.
They got this right with the TMCC version...
It’s a small clip on a test track.
The small engine is always running - according to Dave
@TK posted:The small engine is always running - according to Dave
As near as I can tell from sketchy information, that's not how the prototype operated.
https://ogrforum.com/...0#156842928545439120
Per the above link, Dave stated the diesel is always running but you can use the Aux 3 key to turn the turbine smoke unit on and off.
Just paid for mine! It should ship tomorrow!
Here is the video from a few months ago when Dave did a demo.
I'll stick with my TMCC version.
I can tell I'm not going to be very happy about the truck mounted front drape and coupler. For the price of this unit, the front drape and coupler should have been body mounted with the ability to mount it to the truck.
Ummm. Lionel got it right. The prototype Veranda turbine the pilot was mounted to the truck span bolster, not the locomotive frame.
Rusty
@Rusty Traque posted:Ummm. Lionel got it right. The prototype Veranda turbine the pilot was mounted to the truck span bolster, not the locomotive frame.
Rusty
Makes note not to remove the pilot and attach it to the frame upon receiving unit.
I opened the Veranda this evening and found 2 bags of what seems to be a total of 8 spacers and screws. Anyone know what these are for? I'm assuming it has something to do with Kadee coupler installation... unless.... perhaps.... these are the internal engine mounts and somewhere deep within the manual is a small note that says "do not run the engine without first installing the mounts or the rich thick plume of smoke you will see is actually the burning of the drive train" bwah-hahahahahahaha (OK- take away my 5th cup of coffee and tell me to go sit in the corner and have a timeout).
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@ScottV posted:I opened the Veranda this evening and found 2 bags of what seems to be a total of 8 spacers and screws. Anyone know what these are for? I'm assuming it has something to do with Kadee coupler installation... unless.... perhaps.... these are the internal engine mounts and somewhere deep within the manual is a small note that says "do not run the engine without first installing the mounts or the rich thick plume of smoke you will see is actually the burning of the drive train" bwah-hahahahahahaha (OK- take away my 5th cup of coffee and tell me to go sit in the corner and have a timeout).
Kadee Coupler mounting hardware.
Dang it I was hoping someone would say the spacers go in the locomotive 😅
Mine was at the club today, and 20 min in it took off like a bat outta H***. Damaged 5 of my PFE reefers. No reset or anything fixed. Sounds like a call to Lionel Monday. Speed step 1 and it’s off and gone, then the only way to shut it down is kill power
I’m a big fan of the Department of Defense veranda. Unique and awesome paint scheme and paint job. The green really pops. Love the red lights in reverse, looks mean. The turbine smoke start is awesome, makes a plume of smoke when it fires. So the element must be somewhat on even though the fan isn’t?? Could be just what the next “ Diesel cold start smoke affect” needs but with a fast fan speed instantly. I do have a minor issue wondering if any others. Speed aero 1-10ish is jittery. But the. Smooths out above it. Happy to report it navigated an 060 curve without issue.
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I don’t use smoke much but wanted to test in my new veranda. Diesel smoke great. Turbine smoke just gives a puff at speed step 15, then nothing. I realize the turbine comes on at step 15 so no smoke before that. But like I said I just get a puff at 15. Any ideas what would cause this?
@Tanner111 posted:I don’t use smoke much but wanted to test in my new veranda. Diesel smoke great. Turbine smoke just gives a puff at speed step 15, then nothing. I realize the turbine comes on at step 15 so no smoke before that. But like I said I just get a puff at 15. Any ideas what would cause this?
Is it blowing some oil up and “plugging” it? Maybe blow down it as an check?
@Tanner111 posted:I don’t use smoke much but wanted to test in my new veranda. Diesel smoke great. Turbine smoke just gives a puff at speed step 15, then nothing. I realize the turbine comes on at step 15 so no smoke before that. But like I said I just get a puff at 15. Any ideas what would cause this?
How many drops did you put in? It will probably take a good 30 to get it primed the first time. Also it’s a big funnel make sure it actually got into the smoke unit
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@zhubl posted:How many drops did you put in? It will probably take a good 30 to get it primed the first time. Also it’s a big funnel make sure it actually got into the smoke unit
Is taking the shell off easy??
@zhubl posted:How many drops did you put in? It will probably take a good 30 to get it primed the first time. Also it’s a big funnel make sure it actually got into the smoke unit
I put 20 drops in so far. I didn’t want to overfill but it does look like a big bowl. I didn’t look into removing the shell yet.
6 screws it’s not bad, main LCP board is in the back. First connectors are on the switch board that’s on the roof 2 of them. Then one for the backup light and antenna
no connectors up front thanks to this 
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Got mine today. Even though I’m still building my new layout. I got to put some track down and run it. Just got to check her out.
@zhubl posted:6 screws it’s not bad, main LCP board is in the back. First connectors are on the switch board that’s on the roof 2 of them. Then one for the backup light and antenna
no connectors up front thanks to this
Got any other pictures of the inside? Love to see the engineering on this.
Ok just excuse the mess on the workbench
They used a pretty cool idea to connect the lights for the front of the locomotive
Found out how the Bluetooth is supposed to work with the die-cast shell. Little hole in the sheet metal frame right under the antenna 
I didn’t take a picture but I was surprised that in the tender there’s another LCP3 (I think that’s the right number for the diesel board) so there’s a motor driver in there that isn’t used. I imagine they mainly used it for the already integrated Bluetooth board
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Where's the generator smoke unit at? I see the turbine one
Nice clean arrangement in there. The TMCC version had Pittmans but I'm not surprised they weren't used this time around. I sort of regret selling my Veranda but it went to a good home. I'm disappointed that the PRR version hasn't been posted yet.
Oh whoops I moved it out of my way in that picture 
Of all places it sits right over the the LCP3 board. The bracket has two legs as the Bluetooth board sticks out right there also
Not a fan of smoke units over boards.
I thought we'd see "more power" under the hood. All of that locomotive, and its really just a basic 4 axle diesel.
@RickO posted:I thought we'd see "more power" under the hood. All of that locomotive, and its really just a basic 4 axle diesel.
Not easy with all that lateral movement in the front and rear truck assemblies, unless you went old-school, k-line-esque and put the motors in the truck assemblies! Of course then there's no wheels.
It may have the same two motors that’s in most plastic body diesels but this has the weight of the diecast shell and very little will hold it back. I saw @ericstrains.com video and I’m pretty sure he said it had 4lbs 12oz pulling power with his test. That’ll give the Vision Big Boy a run for its money
@zhubl posted:It may have the same two motors that’s in most plastic body diesels but this has the weight of the diecast shell and very little will hold it back. I saw @ericstrains.com video and I’m pretty sure he said it had 4lbs 12oz pulling power with his test. That’ll give the Vision Big Boy a run for its money
The Veranda came in at 4 pounds 6 ounces, which is more than the big boy. It should be more…the thing weighs almost 17 pounds lol.
-Eric
Definatly made some fanasy units. To the best of my knowledge, UP was the only road to use them.
@ericstrains.com posted:The Veranda came in at 4 pounds 6 ounces, which is more than the big boy. It should be more…the thing weighs almost 17 pounds lol.
-Eric
Ok I was off 6oz but still it is very heavy 😅
