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Just got my first Proto 3 engine for Christmas

It's a railking BNSF Dash 8 with proto 3,love it,

Run conventional on a Z-4000,that won't be changing.

That bring's my total of engine's to 13, that are all on the platform,and I randomly run all of them

They are all diesel's,with Proto 1,2 and a 3 now

Passenger and freight sound's.

Now that I'm past the newness of the new engine,which by the way now has a detailed interior,running light's all the time,ditch light's,etc

I mean it's really a beautiful engine.

But getting to the point of my thread

I like to sit upstair's in the layout room with just the layout light's on and  a train or 2 idling,and sit and  dream of what I'm going to do,or build next.

I just noticed that beyond the 3's nicer idling sound's,when it's sitting there's,it doesn't have that much more random playing sound's,that you would maybe expect to advance from 1 to 2 to 3.

Even in freight yard sound's,when you cycle thru each one,you get a different sound each each time you push the button,but that's it

On my SD-90 Conrail  proto 1 in FYS,it's change's each time you cycle thru,and you also get random sound's 

Same with my Proto 2s in either FYS or Passenger sound's

In proto 3 in FYS each time you push the button,you get a different chatter then that's it,it's just the engine idle till you push the button for the next cycle.

I just thought that as these things progressed and developed you would have more random sound's going on all the time.

You don't need to respond by saying,Get DCS or try Lionel,etc.

I'm just stating a observation.

 

By the way,after all these year's I still enjoy listening to my Proto 1 SD-90 sitting

JACK,were going right out the north end,Jack,were going right out the north end.

 

In 98 or so my Mom,who isn't around anymore,and I  went to a Greenburg's show on a saturday,and by they way it was frurrying that day.

I had laid track on the layout but didn't have anything yet.

We went to the show not knowing what to expect ,Well she ended up buying me a Conrail SD-90 with proto 1,one train car,a conrail caboose,and a Z-4000.

I came home,went up to the attic,hooked up everything real fast and just sat there listening to that engine amazed.

It's mid to late afternoon,I'm supposed to be at a family birthday party,my wife's calling,did you leave yet?

I have one window in the attic,I'm watching it flurry outside,and sitting there listening to that engine"Jack,were going right out the north end.

Now when I listen to that,it has a really special memory attached to it,as do almost all my engine's,being that my wife has bought almost every one of them for either my birthday or Christmas.and a good chunk of my rolling stock

So I can sit in the train room and touch my postwar orange flat car with truck's,and then touch my SD-90,and span memories past and present

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There was a lot to like about my Protosounds (1) steam sounds too.  My Hudson would sit at idle and go through all the different steam idle sounds and an occasional loud blow down.

 

Diesels:  On my SW-9 the sounds were loud and laborious when the engine began to move.  Now with my PS3 GP engine it takes off at idle noise and does a small rev increase at each 5 mph increments.  Not realistic at all.  It seems with all the intellectual changes to these things that the sounds would be an upgrade.  They are not.

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What brought me back to O was the sound: I bought a Lionel SD70 starter set and was blown away by the sound the moment I fired it up.  I, too, love the sound.  When I am in my workshop (right next to my layout), I love to keep three trains, with sound, running, and just let them fill the background with train sounds. Even with my back turned, I run train and love their sound keeping my company.

 

Initially, I loved anything with sound, PS1 and 2, early rail-and trainsounds, even "mighty sound of steam" made me happy. 

 

But no longer.  I'm spoiled rotten by Lionel's recent sound.   I won't go so far as to say I am disappointed in PS3, but it is only a little better than PS2, and over the past five year's I've watched (well, really, listened) as Lionel's sound just got better and better and better even as they made no new distinction as to what they called it.  Anymore, I find I put my older locos, regardless of manufacturer, on the shelf in favor of those recent locos that have spectacular sound. they are nearly all Lionel, but interestingly a few recent Lionel don't have sound that "sparkles" like the best.   I thnk some of this has to do with the loco body (if diesel) or tender size and type (if steam): for example the Legacy Southern Crescent sounds much better than the Legacy Blue Comet (both Lionel Pacifics from the same catalog and page) - I think because it has a much smaller tender.  But some if it is just individual locos _ I have two Lionel U30Cs, one has very good sound - among the best diesels I have, but the other has spectacular sound - the richest, most detailed, nuanced sound of any loco I have.  I have no idea why there is a difference but there is.

Ya know what Lee

I've shied away from Lionel because of

Price

No cruise control in conventional

No pulling power,the wheels slide with 5 or more cars

And the thing take's off in forward when turing on.

That said it's a GP-9 Milwaukee rd,like the postwar I had when I was born,My wife bought it for me one birthday,which make's it special.

It's got a blinking light on the roof which is neat.

The horn is Real nice.

The bell is a little hard to hear

It only make's engine noises at idle,but I like it

Originally Posted by Transman:

Price - you get what you pay for.  MTH or Legacy, in the last year getting a scale, good steamers seems to cost around the same.

No cruise control in conventional - I buy Legacy even though I run only conventional and get cruise that works well in conventional.  Early cruise did not work that well but recent years work flawlessly.

 

No pulling power,the wheels slide with 5 or more cars - are you kidding? You must be.  My Legacy Mallet or Northern pulls 30+ cars up 2.5% grades.  Even my Southern Crescent, which is actually a very small loco, will pull those although it does struggle a bit to get them started if starting on a slope.  My conventional Atlantic does 14 scale PFE reefers and a caboose up that same slope no problem, and did you see the video of my Lionel  Veranda turbine I posted today in the shortest and longest passenger train thread today?  Twenty aluminum passenger cars.   And it wasn't even working that hard!!!! 



And the thing take's off in forward when turing on.  Well, not the Legacy ones . . . when I run them conventional they all start out in neutral.

 

I had a little Lionel bottom end loco a few years ago, sort of a stubby Alco diesel that was traditional size, thatcost only $70 or something.  But it would pull nothing, run poorly, and was just a cheap POS.  Maybe your GP9 is a bottom end thing like that.  Most companies including Lionel have made their share at somet time. 

 

I've bought no loco in the last few years from Lionel  or MTH for that matter, that costs much below $500 list - maybe $400 at discount - regardless of company it seems to cost that to get a quaility loco with sound.  I've bought several (Baldwin 10-wheeler) from WBB that cost less, but they have no sound. And if and after you add sound, etc., to them, you're at around $500 again. 

 

I don't think it's any manufacturer: all of them make or have made made cheap locos.  all of them make some good ones. Its often not easy, and sometimes just luck, to sort the former out from the latter. 

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