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I have read numerous topics here on phasing transformers, just want a little more input.

I have an old ZW and a 1033. I want to use the 1033 to power the signal system, (Custom Signals & Atlas) which get thier input off the outside isolated rail through the ground.

 

So, as I have read, the ZW uses "U" as a common, and the 1033 uses "A" as common and should be wired together?

 

I have touch the post together and no spark at 11 volts. At the time,  I also tried the ZW  "U" post and the " U" post on the 1033, again no spark. It does not seem to matter which is post from the 1033 attaches to the "U" on the ZW as the signals work when the isolated outside rail is jumped to ground. (But I did not run an engine so it may creat a short.)

 

Now that I think of it, maybe I should wire the 1033 "A" post to the common on the Atlas signal boards and the "U" to the Power on the signal boards.

 

I will investigate further later. Nothing hooked up until I get a bit more info.

 

Thanks, Dan

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Forget about the ZW for a moment. You only want to power the the signal system with your 1033. It makes no difference to the the signal which of your transformer posts are attached to common as long as you have a complete circuit. So either way will work. You can wire either A or U post to your layout common.

 

Phasing is an issue when an engine can receive power from 2 different transformers simultaneously. In this case your engine can only get power from your ZW. It can't get power from your 1033 because the 1033 is only using one leg of the circuit i.e. the layout common. In the same vein, your signal can't receive power from your ZW because it's not a complete circuit.

 

 

 

Hi Susan, I have been phasing transformers for more years then I would like to mention but that procedure you linked us to is probably the best I have seen. Simple  and to the point and the Lionel transformer value chart is a pluss for a number of things.

Thank You Susan and thank you SSPRR, good stuff.

Another thing to consider is to be sure that all transformers are plugged into the same phase 120 volt power. One way to do this is to plug all of the transformers into a power strip. Most houses have two phase power into the house. Generaly one half of the house is wired to one phase and the other half is wired to the other phase. I have run into cases where two electric outlets in the same room are not the same phase. This happens more often when additions are made and additional electric outlets are installed.

If 2 or more transformers just share a common phasing is not an issue,as Dennis said. If they are in parallel there are more issues than just the phasing issue. If they are set at different potentials,damage could occur to the lower set one which is not breaker protected.

 

David,

 

If a house is properly wired the outlets in a given room should not have opposite phased outlets if up to code in most places. However your point is well taken.

 

Dale H

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