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I have PW transformers, ZW and 1033.  They both have posts called 'U' or 'Common', and multiple posts that will output variable voltage.  I had an 80s era MW transformer that I bought new back then, and I've been using it for testing.  It died so I needed a new one.  To keep my CEO happy I researched all I could and decided on an affordable NIB 32923.  I know it's not big, but it should do what I need.  During my research I noted that others have asked about the 'polarity' of the posts on that transformer, and several knowledgeable OGRers replied there is no polarity on AC transformers.  In my very simple world I believe that electricity flows in one direction.  I've believed that the electricity flows from the 'A,B'C' posts on my transformers to the 'U' or 'common' posts.  Is that not true?  Does my 32923 transformer have an equivalent post to the 'U' posts?  If so, can it easily be determined?  I saw a tutorial of sorts from Marty about phasing transformers.  I'm not sure I understood it all.  BTW, the posts on the MW were not defined either.  It had a main output and an accessory output.  There were 2 unmarked posts for each output.

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In an AC system looking at the two posts at a given instant in time they will either be exactly zero volts; or one will be more positive than the other.  ~8 milliseconds later these polarities will reverse - the opposite pole will be more positive than the other.

In an AC system, if you have 2 power sources that are in phase and have the same polarity, their Commons will switch from positive voltage to negative voltages in sync with each other, as will the two Hots.

When the 2 power sources have opposite polarities, the two Hots are out of sync with each other, as are the 2 Commons.

This can be visualized by looking at their sine waves produced on a dual trace oscilloscope.  When they are in phase and have the same voltage the two sine waves will look identical.  When they have opposite polarities, they will be a mirror image of each other.

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To follow up on SteveH's opening response, let's start with the technical answer that, yes, strictly speaking "polarity" only applies to DC (direct current) voltages, where one terminal is typically labeled "plus" (+) and the other is labeled "minus" (-). Matching polarity is as simple as connecting "+" to "+", and "-" to "-" -- in effect, putting the 'batteries' in the 'holder' the right way!

Alternating current (AC), by contrast, sends the electrons back and forth, switching directions (actually 120 times per second in the USA, yielding 60 full cycles per second). So, there's no actual "polarity" to an AC output, but (just to make things confusing!) there *are* several concepts sometimes confused with (or mislabeled as) polarity:

- First, many AC distribution systems arbitrarily connect one pole of the system to ground -- literally driving copper rods into the earth to connect it to the ground, and sometimes relying on that return circuit to use only one transmission line. So, if you measure the voltage potential between each of the two power prongs of any receptacle and the ground, one will show line potential (120 VAC) and the other will show no voltage at all (the third prong, if any, is also grounded, or should be). Modern two-conductor plugs and receptacles are "polarized" in the sense that they can *only* be inserted in one direction, providing a reliable ground connection to the device even without the third wire. In modern devices, the chassis is often connected to ground, to prevent stray voltages from inadvertently contacting the user.

- Just to add to the potential confusion, sometimes the device makers create a common connection for distinct voltage outputs -- in multi-throttle train transformers, the "U" terminals are typically common for all outputs, with the other terminal for the various throttles labeled "A", "B", etc. This common terminal may or may not be "grounded" in the above sense, but all circuits will use the single and interconnected terminal as one side of the various power circuits.

- Which brings us to the final (sometimes confusing) term: "phasing". Phasing simply means matching the waveform of multiple AC sources, so the individual AC sources work together rather than against each other when connected in parallel or in series. In practice, this means that you can connect two small transformers in parallel to carry a heavier load than either could individually, or conversely connect them in series to produce the sum of their individual voltages. If the transformers are *not* properly phased before connection, they may tend to short each other out if connected in parallel, or cancel each other out if connected in series.

Oh, and one final confusion: electricity is literally the flow of loose electrons from atom to atom (and/or the reverse flow of "holes" which electrons can potentially occupy around atoms), but rather than "+" designating a surplus of electrons as you might imagine, it actually designated a *deficit* of electrons (i.e., "holes"). I can only ascribe the confusing reversal to the polarity signs having been assigned long before the understanding of subatomic physics clarified what "polarity" really meant.

There -- everything clear now?

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@texgeekboy posted:

I have PW transformers, ZW and 1033.  They both have posts called 'U' or 'Common', and multiple posts that will output variable voltage.  I had an 80s era MW transformer that I bought new back then, and I've been using it for testing.  It died so I needed a new one.  To keep my CEO happy I researched all I could and decided on an affordable NIB 32923.  I know it's not big, but it should do what I need.  During my research I noted that others have asked about the 'polarity' of the posts on that transformer, and several knowledgeable OGRers replied there is no polarity on AC transformers.  In my very simple world I believe that electricity flows in one direction.  I've believed that the electricity flows from the 'A,B'C' posts on my transformers to the 'U' or 'common' posts.  Is that not true?  Does my 32923 transformer have an equivalent post to the 'U' posts?  If so, can it easily be determined?  I saw a tutorial of sorts from Marty about phasing transformers.  I'm not sure I understood it all.  BTW, the posts on the MW were not defined either.  It had a main output and an accessory output.  There were 2 unmarked posts for each output.

You mentioned having a 1033...to add to the potential confusion, i believe the A post is common and U is variable...for this model only.

@Farmall-Joe posted:

You mentioned having a 1033...to add to the potential confusion, i believe the A post is common and U is variable...for this model only.

ALL postwar Multi-Control single throttle transformers use "A"(or alternate posts for different voltages) as common and "U" to the center rail - so most transformers.

As @Steve Tyler points out above, only multi throttle transformers use "U" as common.

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