UP does a Livery Change

Not a tunnel motor, its a dirty SD70ACe.

There's too many things on the side. The flag, the road number, the shield, the slogan, and the big UP. Its just so busy.

The nose was better with the wings.

I agree that it's too busy.  I think the slogan should go (although I fully support it!), and the shield go in the center of that area, perhaps slightly bigger.  I think the numbers could be made a bit smaller as well, unless there's a requirement for that size.

I hope Atlas still does what was the new scheme a few months ago. I like it better.

.......but I like the palm tree growing out of the rear of the locomotive !

Cool. More paint schemes for MTH

About the palm tree: Be careful what you wish for!

Trains reported that the design change took six months.  "Building America" very slowly.

Kinda kills the lines around the nose, just too busy. Not a fan of this one

Probably better without the huge, waving side flag if its proximity to the prime mover was discoloring it.

I’d say remove side flags altogether, let a slightly larger UP shield suffice, keep the “Building America” and the nose wings. There’s a lot of room on the locomotive sides and if done in the right sizes and spaced appropriately, it could be attractive without being too busy.

@Boilermaker1 posted:

There's too many things on the side. The flag, the road number, the shield, the slogan, and the big UP. Its just so busy.

The nose was better with the wings.

@texgeekboy posted:

I agree that it's too busy.  I think the slogan should go (although I fully support it!), and the shield go in the center of that area, perhaps slightly bigger.  I think the numbers could be made a bit smaller as well, unless there's a requirement for that size.

@Surefire posted:

Kinda kills the lines around the nose, just too busy. Not a fan of this one

@Yellowstone Special posted:

Probably better without the huge, waving side flag if its proximity to the prime mover was discoloring it.

I’d say remove side flags altogether, let a slightly larger UP shield suffice, keep the “Building America” and the nose wings. There’s a lot of room on the locomotive sides and if done in the right sizes and spaced appropriately, it could be attractive without being too busy.

It's the UP's locomotives, they can do what they want...

Rusty

@Rusty Traque posted:

It's the UP's locomotives, they can do what they want...

Rusty

Yes, we know that.

@Rusty Traque posted:

It's the UP's locomotives, they can do what they want...

Rusty

And you can paint flames on a Prius too.  Doesnt mean we cant ridicule it on the internet.

You’d think they would spend a little more time figuring out how to improve their abysmal service record than wasting time on new paint schemes. The Surface Transportation Board issued an emergency service order to UP due to their extremely slow service.

They are a mess…

@Rusty Traque posted:

It's the UP's locomotives, they can do what they want...

Rusty

Since it is so often said on this forum, I was going to comment that it is their train layout .....

I honestly don't have an opinion on the aesthetics of it.  The UP locomotives that come to Phoenix mostly need repainting.  That is my only commentary related to this subject.  I agree that there are more important issues with the railroad beyond how they paint their locomotives.

@Rich Melvin posted:

You’d think they would spend a little more time figuring out how to improve their abysmal service record than wasting time on new paint schemes. The Surface Transportation Board issued an emergency service order to UP due to their extremely slow service.

They are a mess…

Didn't you ever hear the saying "A clean car runs better?" 

Maybe new paint makes railroads run better...

Rusty

As we used to say, "The paint doesn't pull the train."  However it always looks better when it is clean.  Dirty, shabby, locomotives reinforce the generally negative attitude of the public toward railroads.

@Boilermaker1 posted:

And you can paint flames on a Prius too.  Doesnt mean we cant ridicule it on the internet.

Well...

Rusty

Thinking on this further, the scheme could be much worse and something along these lines.

I understand moving the flag from the long hood to the cab area as I've seen heat damage on locomotives. It is a bit busy, but I like that it's there.

@GG1 4877 posted:

Thinking on this further, the scheme could be much worse and something along these lines.

A paint scheme like that would put me back on the Isle of Denial. John Pignatelli would go full-blown insurgent.

I am obviously not being very productive this evening.

@Rusty Traque posted:

Didn't you ever hear the saying "A clean car runs better?" 

Maybe new paint makes railroads run better...

Rusty

Everyone knows the red ones go faster...

@GG1 4877 posted:

Thinking on this further, the scheme could be much worse and something along these lines.

Shhhh!  Someone will want Lionel to make it!!!

Rusty

Yes, paint, it's placement, color(s), it's 'message', ...it is all so very important to spend hours of debate, dollars of labor/material.  In fact it surely improves the overall quality of...

the scrapple...and bacon, of course.

Hmmm....

@dkdkrd posted:

Yes, paint, it's placement, color(s), it's 'message', ...it is all so very important to spend hours of debate, dollars of labor/material.  In fact it surely improves the overall quality of...

the scrapple...and bacon, of course.

Hmmm....

OK, now that’s pretty funny!

@GG1 4877 posted:

Thinking on this further, the scheme could be much worse and something along these lines.

(helpless laughter)

Mitch

It's still too busy. Shield with or without wings on the nose, number under the cab, and UNION PACIFIC on the sides are all that's really needed.

The Union Pacific locomotives that come through Cleveland Ohio usually don’t look very good at all. At least the ones that I get to see. They are probably just borrowed power. Usually the paint is rusty, coming off or worn out and always very dirty! So in this particular case anything better looking is a win! I know the one that ran over my Tonneau cover on Sunday could’ve used a paint job!:-(  fortunately for my truck and me my Tonneau cover was not on my pick up truck when the train ran it over. It was improperly reinstalled from the body shop last month and blew off on the interstate. I saw it was going over the side of a bridge. Almost exactly the same time as I got back to the off ramp to take a look for it a UP Locomotive came by pulling freight. I no longer had to worry about the issue of looking for or retrieving it🫤

If the body of these locomotives are getting dirty because they are in constant use, it is unlikely that they will be repainting the body of the units immediately.

Andrew

The 2023 Lionel catalogue may well have these locomotives in red and silver warbonnet on one side  and a Daylight scheme on the opposite side with a flex spring base palm tree "tunnel ceiling cleaner".  Oh heck, UP may do that themselves!

Just wish there was a way to apply real leadership in our rail service.  There are containers stacked up every where needing responsible cross country hauling.  This stunt is truly lipsticked bacon.