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 I've been doing some further work on my track plans.  From earlier suggestions I've added an access  that will be hidden by buildngs and building fronts inside the city portion of elevated line.  I've attached RR-track plans for each of the three levels. I am not planning to connect the lower and upper lines.  I feel I have enough operating variation with the wyes, cross-overs and reverse loops without having to deal with grades going from one level to another.

 

I've also included a plan for my benchwork. This will be my first attempt at L-girder/open grid bench work.  On the left side, along the wall I'll use "L" brackets to support the two level passenger station and elevated terminal stub. Please look at the diagram and make any sugggestions!

 

 A few "L-girder" questions:

 

  • What spacing should I use between the legs supporting the girders (1x4's)?
  • How far can I extend the ends of the girder over the leg?
  • What would be the maximum spacing between the joist?
  • Would 1x3 joists be sufficient or would 1x4 be better

 

A few other comments on the plan:

  • I realize I might need another access opening or two. I'll work those in as I begin to lay track and verify reaches.
  • I will also be adding some sidings to serve various industries.
  • At this point I am not planning any engine facilities.  Down the line there would be a possibility of extending the peninsula on the right side to accomplish that.
  • I may eventually add a subway line along the perimeter of the left peninsula (under the city) With the joist overhangs from the L-girder system that should be a fairly straight away process.

 

The elevated line is designed to offer several variations via wyes and cross-overs; out and back, point to point, as well as two continous loops around the city.

 

I also have an RR-track diagram of the entire room with all three levels super-imposed on each other.  I was going to post that, but it gets to be  pretty "busy" so I left it off this post.  Will add it to a later post.

 

 

main level basic

 

Lower Level

 

 

upper level

 

Upper level

 

 

 

elevated line

 

Elevated Line

 

 

benchwork

 

 

Bench work

 

 

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  • main level basic: lower level track plan
  • upper level: upper level track plan
  • elevated line: Elevated line
  • benchwork: benchwork
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When you say 1X4 for the girders, are you going to add the top flange 1X2? If you are, spanning 8ft. is no problem. Without the flange, the span is shortened a lot. You can extend past about 1/3 the span or a little over 2 ft. It's also important to brace the legs deeply and cross-brace. The stiffer the leg, the bigger the cantilever can be. I'm spanning 4 feet between joists using 1x3's. I'm also extending out beyond the girders up to 8". I believe it will be quite stiff as long as the risers spread the load across the joists and don't concentrate it in the center.

Before you get started you should have a copy of Lynn Wescotts book in hand.

Secondly, consider building your entire layout from 3/4" sheet goods. All of your components will be much straighter, lighter, and you will utilized nearly every piece of plywood with little or no waste. Below is a photo of my mock up for my recent turntable addition, note all plywood construction, right down the the legs which are 3-1/4" piece 90 degrees to a 4" piece, glued and stapled to form the legs to support the L girders. This is a very strong and effective method of construction.

Thanks much for the advice. 

 

Trainman...The L-girders will definitely have the 1x2 across the top.  I'll price out the difference between ripping a wider board to get the 1x2 and the cost of buying the narrower board and then buying 1x2's.  My cross braces will be deep, going from the girder to within a few inches of the floor and will be blocked and screwed where they intersect each other.

 

gregj410...I'll look for the Westcott book. I'm sure I can get it online. I have quite a bit of lumber left from building my post and beam cedar home.  All my legs will be clear cedar as wil lmany of the joists resting of the girders.  I even have some 12" TJI floor joists left (but not long enough to use and that would certainly be "over-kill")!!!  I also have some 3/4 inch ply left over, but not enough to do much.  All the joints, including the top of the L-gerder will be screwed and glued. Along with the cross bracing, the platfrom should be quite stable.

 

Thanks again,

 

Jim

Salida, Colorado

"The Heart of the Rockies"

 

 

Last edited by lioneljim

That's a good benchwork plan.  I would use 1X4's, (I always use a finger jointed pine product called Windsor One- it's straight and stable- clear cedar would certainly work- I love working with cedar), at 16" on center, cantilevered  12-16" over your beams, which looks like what you have on your plan.  I would figure about 5-6' spacing for the legs, like what you have on the left hand side of your plan. 

Just build it.  You don't need a book, you obviously have a good handle on the task at hand.  You need some basic carpentry tools, some elbow grease and to make a pile of sawdust.  Have Fun & Good Luck.  That certainly is a cool layout plan.  I would love to build that.  

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