Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Does anybody have any experience/thoughts on the Weaver 2-Rail Bettendorf trucks, #P713? I don't know if these are "new to the 2-Rail market", or recently redesigned and reissued. Being a 3-Rail SCALE modeler, I have been using Athearn trucks, and MTH metal 2-Rail trucks, both of which seem to work very well on my Atlas O 3-Rail layout & turnouts. Last weekend, I discovered these Weaver 2-Rail trucks at my local hobby shop, and purchased one pair. Last evening I installed them on a Hallmark brass B&O wagon top covered hopper, and the car rolls extremely freely, and negotiates any and all turnouts without problems.
One thing I did notice about these "new to me" Weaver trucks; the tread of the wheel is noticeably wider than other 2-Rail trucks I already have. Maybe THAT is why these seem to track so much better? For what it's worth, all my Atlas 3-Rail turnouts have been modified by adding shim stock to the tops of all the guard rails on the diverging route.
I have been wondering the same thing. I've been in 2 rail for a little over 10 years now. I started out buying Weaver cars either 2 rail or converting the 3 rail cars. I only use the metal framed trucks as I didn't care for the ones with plastic wheels. I did not know that IM wheels would fit the Weaver plastic truck. All of the trucks on the cars I acquired were exactly the same. For an example here is a Burlington hopper:
Recently, I think it was last summer I saw a Weaver Raritan River woodside gondola at my LHS and it was 2 rail. I know this is a fantasy piece but I collect Raritan River so I bought it. One of the first things I noticed was the trucks were different. The factory wheel sets had a totally different shape and the rest of the trucks was definitely a darker black. I can't decide which truck I like better but I do like the wheels in the new truck better than the older version. This truck is exactly the same as the one posted by Maine Trains in the picture entitled "Weaver Die Cast". Here is a picture of the gondola:
When looking at the trucks by eye it appears the Tread Width is different and wider on the newer truck. Unfortunately, I don't have the proper tool to measure the Tread Width so I measured the Wheel Width and I got 0.177" for the older truck and 0.175" for the new truck. I also measured the Flange Width and I got 0.057" for the older truck and 0.049" for newer truck. NMRA recommends 0.039". The slightly smaller flange on the new truck will give a slightly larger Tread Width. HW, I don't know if this small amount is enough to be the reason why you have seen better performance with the new truck but IMHO it certainly is possible. Or maybe it is a combination of the extra Tread Width and the shape of the flange?
Bear in mind my micrometer is not an expensive model so these numbers could be off by a few thousandths of an inch but the proportions would be correct.