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A small county station from BING, it dates from around 1915-20. I just restored the mechanism, when the pedal is pushed by the train the bell rings and the arm semaphore moves from up to down. unfortunately missing two sliding blue guards on the front but still a nice model. It can be used with O or I gauge.
A special indicator, also from BING, the center has been re decorated to illustrate a railway line just passing in my hometown.
And a small lever crossing to restore, missing a signal and the opposite side. The small house was lighted with a candle.
Have a nice tinplate weekend. Daniel
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A small Marklin 1 gauge consist on the Bing bridge. The cars are original and the "Stork Leg" locomotive is a modern (1999) Marklin reproduction. Unfortunately, the clockwork motor is not the best. I hope to find something to substitute for it at York next week.
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Happy Tinplate Weekend Folks,
I have been doing some inventory work on the collection this week. I discovered that I have at least 5 
American Flyer Kenilworth Stations. Two of them came to me with their boxes.
Edit: While the station on the right was stored in the box it is sitting on it did not come to me that way. This is the earlier #104 station that came in the box. There is an interesting story as to why I have that station stored in that box, but I will save it for next week's Weekend Tinplate thread. To be continued.....
The photo at the top of the page should look like this:
The #104 is a fairly common station and relatively easy to find. It had a long run which bridged the transition from Chicago Flyer to Gilbert Flyer. My stations illustrate that transition and how the labeling changed.
Chicago Flyer
Gilbert Flyer
Gilbert also added some additional identification on the station itself.
Have a Great Tinplate Weekend
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
The world of Express Baggage
American Flyer
Bing
Hafner
Ives
KBN
Marx
Thomas Industries
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FRED: Is that Sakai a Lionel 675 knockoff?
Tinplate Art posted:FRED: Is that Sakei a Lionel 675 knockoff?
According to the TCAWESTERN (http://www.tcawestern.org/seki.htm) website:
The die-cast Sakai #301 locomotive looked similar to a Lionel #675 but shrunk down to about the size of a Marx #999.
Regards
Fred
GREG: I have a very nice 102 station with a blue roof but no box, and I have two questions: Were the original exterior bulbs white globes, and is the 102 harder to find than the 104? Mine also has the original cloth hookup wire. THANKS in advance!
RSB: NICE assortment!
A friend of mine picked up this Flyer 581 girder bridge for me at a local Pa. antique mall:
While technically it's S-gauge postwar, I'll most likely be running prewar O-gauge over it.
PD
great stuff!
Got this in. Any ideas who made it
it's about 17" wide from outside to outside and has 5" clearence. that is a 814R and a 815
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Tinplate Art posted:GREG: I have a very nice 102 station with a blue roof but no box, and I have two questions: Were the original exterior bulbs white globes, and is the 102 harder to find than the 104? Mine also has the original cloth hookup wire. THANKS in advance!
Tinplate Art,
I believe that the #102 station only came with a green roof. I am sure that the green could vary in shade. Could your roof be a blue green?
The #102 was cataloged from 1928 - 1938 and all of the catalog art that I have seen shows the exterior lights as being round globes.
I have seen it being sold with the long Christmas tree bulbs and the ornate bulbs found in the Ives/Lionel street lamp bulbs. I assume that the white round globes were originally included with the station.
The #102 was never marked with its catalog number but is usually known as the Central Station. I have seen it have that brass tag on the front, or one on each end. I have also seen it with the Terminal Station signs from the #107.
...and is the 102 harder to find than the 104?
The #102 was cataloged from 1928-1938. The #104 (Kenilworth Station) was cataloged from 1925 - 1937. There were two versions of the #104.
Unfortunately I have posted inaccurate information in my post earlier in the thread. I will go back and make some corrections.
The first version of the #104 was cataloged from 1925 - 1935
Notice that the illustration on the box matches this version.
The second version of the #104 was cataloged from 1936 - 1939.
These stations must have been very popular because they all seem to be relatively easy to find. While you would expect the later version of the #104, which was cataloged for a shorter time, to be less plentiful it seems to show up fairly frequently.
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
GREG: My roof color is more like the Lionel "peacock" (blue-green?), and the base is red. The exterior lamps have white globes, like the ones in your photo.
rtraincollector posted:Got this in. Any ideas who made it
It is made by Wimmer (HWN - Heinrich Wimmer Nurnberg), post war. See http://www.binnsroad.co.uk/railways/hwn/index.html at the bottom of the page.
Regards
Fred
Chris Lonero posted:Let’s see your tinplate!
Chris - please tell me more about this little critter. Home made? If not who and when?
Jim
Tinplate Art - just to add to what Greg has already posted.
The variegated brick version of the 104 that Greg posted is the third version that Flyer made
They first introduced the station in 1925
The initial version has a smooth green roof and no cut or bent back doors in front and the lamp was painted green with a white painted reflecting underside.
around 1927 Flyer made some changes
The roof was still smooth but was now red/maroon in color and the baggage room door was cut and bent back.
Around 1933 they made the final changes before the complete change in litho treatment
The roof is now embossed, the lamp fixture is now plain brass, and the waiting room door is cut and bent back.
There are a number of smaller changes between 1927 and 1933 and 1933 and the end of the brick litho - simplified embossing of the roof (the first versions had embossing around the chimney mount later versions don't, the litho treatment of the brick chimney changed from small brick to large brick, etc.) however, these are the three basic versions of the brick 104.
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rtraincollector posted:Got this in. Any ideas who made it
it's about 17" wide from outside to outside and has 5" clearence. that is a 814R and a 815
It was made by Heinrich Wimmer Nurnberg some time after WWII. Great info from SNCF231E with the answer. I still think it will look great with my prewar trains.
Robert S. Butler posted:Tinplate Art - just to add to what Greg has already posted.
The variegated brick version of the 104 that Greg posted is the third version that Flyer made
They first introduced the station in 1925
The initial version has a smooth green roof and no cut or bent back doors in front and the lamp was painted green with a white painted reflecting underside.
around 1927 Flyer made some changes
The roof was still smooth but was now red/maroon in color and the baggage room door was cut and bent back.
Around 1933 they made the final changes before the complete change in litho treatment
The roof is now embossed, the lamp fixture is now plain brass, and the waiting room door is cut and bent back.
There are a number of smaller changes between 1927 and 1933 and 1933 and the end of the brick litho - simplified embossing of the roof (the first versions had embossing around the chimney mount later versions don't, the litho treatment of the brick chimney changed from small brick to large brick, etc.) however, these are the three basic versions of the brick 104.
Thanks Robert.
After reading your excellent articles about Flyer Pre War stations over the years I knew you would be able to provide more precise identification and information. This ability to share information and collaborate in identifications is one of the things I enjoy about collecting and doing research in the age of the internet.
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
There are also several color variations of the 104 stations.
Oh, and Greg's post about the 104 coming with Terminal Station plates on is something I have never seen. I have seen Terminal Stations with Central Station plates, but not the other way around.
There are variations of the 104 Station.
The first year station came with the center front name plate and name plates on each end, for a total of 3 name plates.
After the first year, the name plates only appear on the front of the station.
If the station has an orange base, the station will have orange chimneys. The late stations had red bases and red chimneys.
There is one other variation, which I have only seen on the orange base 104 stations. There is a version that had a green crackle (orange peel finish) roof and only a single plate on the front of the building. This is a more difficult to find variation.
I will not start a flyer station collection,,,repeat I will not start a flyer station collection !
terry hudon posted:I will not start a flyer station collection,,,repeat I will not start a flyer station collection !
Oh, if I had only thought that way 25 years ago. I also should have said "I will not start a Flyer tunnel collection"
NWL
Well Terry we can't have that! 
You could always start off slow with #104's close cousin #96 .... in addition to being simpler (no light) it also started earlier and therefore has 3 basic litho treatments to chase...along with all of the other things like, doors cut and uncut, colored bases, etc.
#96 - first litho version
#96 - second litho version
#96 third litho version
Inside the third #96 version
....one of the many different colored station bases....have you all of them? ...Oh, sorry that's a question for Marx enthusiasts.
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LOL,
Good Luck with that.
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
A bit of American Flyer Station historical trivia.
If you check the lithography on the brick #104 stations you will find that, on the ends, it is identified as #96 and this ID remained through the entire run for the brick litho. When American Flyer decided to give their stations names in the catalog in 1928 they chose to identify #96 as Flossmoor and #104 as Kenilworth. Both of these towns are suburbs of Chicago. Of the two Kenilworth was more upscale than Flossmoor (it was also on the lake) so, no light means southern suburb, add a light and call it luxury on the lake.
What I always thought was odd was that the smallest of the stations #90 was given the name Hyde Park. The real Hyde Park is part of downtown Chicago. It includes the University of Chicago and art museums and the big Museum of Science and Industry is just outside the borders of Hyde Park proper on the southeast corner. I guess I would have expected Flyer to have represented Hyde Park with something a little fancier.
Bing for the American Market ( add Cowcatcher... job done ! lol)
Robert S. Butler posted:A bit of American Flyer Station historical trivia.
What I always thought was odd was that the smallest of the stations #90 was given the name Hyde Park. The real Hyde Park is part of downtown Chicago. It includes the University of Chicago and art museums and the big Museum of Science and Industry is just outside the borders of Hyde Park proper on the southeast corner. I guess I would have expected Flyer to have represented Hyde Park with something a little fancier.
Actually, Hyde Park is not considered part of downtown Chicago. Hyde Park is 7 miles south of downtown Chicago and at one time was a separate suburb/township, until it was annexed into the city in 1889.
And with all the American Flyer lately I am feeling a little left out ... but I do have some well loved examples ...
Nation Wide Lines posted:Robert S. Butler posted:A bit of American Flyer Station historical trivia.
What I always thought was odd was that the smallest of the stations #90 was given the name Hyde Park. The real Hyde Park is part of downtown Chicago. It includes the University of Chicago and art museums and the big Museum of Science and Industry is just outside the borders of Hyde Park proper on the southeast corner. I guess I would have expected Flyer to have represented Hyde Park with something a little fancier.
Actually, Hyde Park is not considered part of downtown Chicago. Hyde Park is 7 miles south of downtown Chicago and at one time was a separate suburb/township, until it was annexed into the city in 1889.
The Museum of Science and Industry is actually in Hyde Park in the Jackson Park greenway. It was originally an art museum as part of the World’s Colombian Exposition in 1893. There is an Art Museum on the U of C campus, but the rest of the art museums are in downtown Chicago. Today Hyde Park is surrounded by some of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the US. Washington Park, which boarders Hyde Park on the West made the top 10 a few years ago.
George
terry hudon posted:I will not start a flyer station collection,,,repeat I will not start a flyer station collection !
ok ,so two really isn't a "collection"
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kinda a grey area...but your fate is already sealed.....
two versions of a well-named (), mid-30's set from Hafner.
not really sure why these are known as "Transitional" and it's too early in the morning to think about it now...
the set with sliding tab/slot couplers included a battery op light.
the vestibule mounted coupler set did not include a lighted observation.
cheers...gary
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Steamer posted:kinda a grey area...but your fate is already sealed.....
Shhhh.... Do you think that we should tell him that he is experiencing one of the symptoms of the disease? Denial is a wonderful thing. 
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
since there seems to be a Flyer Station theme... my better-late-than-never version Central Station.
some day i'll get around to replacing those pointy globles...
