Weekend tinplate photos/videos 6/22/18!

not much going on train wise, got hit by a drunk driver coming home from work, so a pic from the library.

Honestly, the 249e and 261e appear to be almost identical.  Only lights vs flag holders on the boiler front and some trim differences. (249 in gray on the left, red mth 261 on the right)

lol,80 year old's don't always want to act nice for the camera !

I am only 75 1/2, but I feel like your engine most days! LOL!

FRED and DANIEL: Hope you join us soon! :-)

The french SNCF experimented and put into service a 225 ton twin unit diesel locomotive  in 1936. It has been used on the PLM line, Paris to Mediterannée, which was used only by steam locomotive and maybe to avoid an expensive building of electric line. It was a very powerfull engine with two motors of 2000 HP each.

The french firm JEP immediately offer the tinplate version of that loco, shortened it maybe too much but it would have been too long to reproduce and run on tinplate tracks.

This one, jut founded this week is the prewar model. To my knowledge it is the only tinplate model of a diesel locomotive made prior to world war two. Production has been redone after the war with a little different paint scheme.

Have a nice tinplate weekend,  Daniel

rusted tinplate given a 2nd chance 600+2600 series

DANIEL: That tinplate diesel is truly an historic artifact if what you state is true! Amazing! Did they sell it as two A units?

No, only the shortened one... but some french tin platers have made two units using two locos, i will try to find a picture of one. 

And here is the JEP 2B2 PLM post war model, roof top is different, a little simplified; tha paint of the chassis is matching the body and a different motor with auto reverse.

Daniel

Fascinating!

Fast Freight!

Steamer posted:

not much going on train wise, got hit by a drunk driver coming home from work, so a pic from the library.

Ouch Dave! I hope you are OK.

George

terry hudon posted:

lol,80 year old's don't always want to act nice for the camera !

Oh! Deja vu!

George

LOL Terry, I bet if you turn off the camera they will act right!

Steamer posted:

not much going on train wise, got hit by a drunk driver coming home from work, so a pic from the library.

Dave!  Glad your ok.  I had a buddy got hit on his way to his mothers viewing/funeral last week.  His wife got a broken pelvis out of it, they were lucky though the guy never slowed down and hit em at highway  speed.  Ironically, his name is also Dave , Dave's have had a rough week!  Hope next week is better and hope you were not driving the Runner!

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

No, only the shortened one... but some french tin platers have made two units using two locos, i will try to find a picture of one. 

And here is the JEP 2B2 PLM post war model, roof top is different, a little simplified; tha paint of the chassis is matching the body and a different motor with auto reverse.

Daniel

I love it Daniel!  That is one of the engine's I have been quietly hunting for.  I'll get one someday.

Dennis Holler posted:

I love it Daniel!  That is one of the engine's I have been quietly hunting for.  I'll get one someday.

Dennis, it is not a rare model, the post war version is relatively comon. Same motor that you have on your 222 steam model.

I hope you will find one.

Thanks Daniel,  I know, it's just a matter of right time, right place, and right price/condition.  I've missed out on a couple that were probably good deals just because I failed to get back to the bid.  Ahh, you know, If I won everything I bid on I'd be broke, well more so than now lol.

ok,,,less temperamental,oldster 

waiting on lights,this was black and painted with a mop,always wanted one of these paint combo 

Nice Terry!

terry hudon posted:

ok,,,less temperamental,oldster 

im amazed that most of the track is af o,i only have one lockon and a rw transformer,with branch lockons and a 12b,,,,,,boom

Dennis Holler posted:

Steamer posted:

not much going on train wise, got hit by a drunk driver coming home from work, so a pic from the library.

Dave!  Glad your ok.  I had a buddy got hit on his way to his mothers viewing/funeral last week.  His wife got a broken pelvis out of it, they were lucky though the guy never slowed down and hit em at highway  speed.  Ironically, his name is also Dave , Dave's have had a rough week!  Hope next week is better and hope you were not driving the Runner!

 

was in my new to me truck. drove it home but will need some work.

Two Lionel classics- Prewar 226 and Postwar 736 on the layout. Having grown up with many a Postwar Lionel steam engine, when I got into Prewar Lionel in recent years I was astounded at how smoothly the Prewar mechanisms run. No smoke units or Magna-Traction, but still amazing models with plenty of pulling power (heavy).

I ran my 408e on a friend’s layout last night.

RICH B posted:

rusted tinplate given a 2nd chance 600+2600 series

Great color scheme!

Something new and my first O Gauge tin- 

MTH/LCT (11-5510-1) No. 269E Distant Control Freight Set:

Marklin CS66/13020 electric loco and train running last night on John Pincus' layout. I purchased the set at the Lindley Bothwell auction in November of last year; I'm not a Marklin expert but happily there is quite a bit of information available online (e.g. http://www.alte-spur-0.de/maer...olokomotiven_20_volt) as well as through a Marklin user group I found. I learned that somewhere over the years the loco was modified with different pantographs and a replacement headlight, but after some work it runs great, although it doesn't like going through switches. Enjoy.

I went on a short vacation and just came back. I visited amongst others the French railway museum (Cite de Train) in Mulhouse, France. Many very interesting trains of course; I expected no tinplate trains, however in a restored Fleche d'Or Pullman car they had a JEP and a Hornby tinplate Fleche d'Or Pullman car displayed. A bit difficult to make photographs but anyway:

The Hornby car:

The JEP car:

Regards

Fred

FRED: Cool visit!

So I tried my first online live auction last weekend and I think I hit the jackpot.  I am not sure what flyer engine or set this is, but I love it. The loco worked smoothly out of wrapping and the three cars that had light bulbs in them all lit up!

So here is my new-to-me flyer o gauge set, perhaps you fine folk could help me with a positive ID and a source for light bulbs, including on for the loco.

And some fun shots with my red 261e

Night running (Flyer engine needs a headlight but I am amazed the coach lights work.)

brother versus brother 

I bid on the live auction too.  Here are a few cars I won.

I also won an Ives 1122, but I accidentally bid on the wrong auction.  There were two very similar groupings. The other one went for less and was in better condition.  So, I ended up with an Ives 1122 with a broken shell, a broken pilot, missing side rods and a wheel with a broken screw socket. Oh, and it needs to be rewired! I was able to get it to run in both directions for a very short time. It came with this tender that looks to be in very good condition.

I'm currently planning how best to restore the engine. Look for that in coming weeks. It will probably take me some time.

I also got this stock car. I did not know that repro doors were made for these cars. 

I also ended up with a set of Saratoga cars with very good litho. They all need the roofs repainted, but they will look really nice when finished. I now have some duplicate cars and plan to sell those to recoup some of my auction spending.

George

George S posted:

I bid on the live auction too.  Here are a few cars I won.

George, who made those litho road-name cars?  And those are O, right?

love the Ives cars! What are Saratoga cars? Passenger cars? and that tender looks beautiful.

must be a trend in Ives Stockcars around here...I got this one a few weeks ago.

jhz563 posted:

So I tried my first online live auction last weekend and I think I hit the jackpot.  I am not sure what flyer engine or set this is, but I love it. The loco worked smoothly out of wrapping and the three cars that had light bulbs in them all lit up!

So here is my new-to-me flyer o gauge set, perhaps you fine folk could help me with a positive ID and a source for light bulbs, including on for the loco.

 

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The "curly-cue" couplers would tend to indicate this being similar to a 1938 Gilbert No. 7 set with red cars rather than blue and silver, less one Pullman. See the catalog page below. Red versions of the cars are a possibility because three (two Pullmans and one observation) were included in the No. 5 set which had a cheaper steamer (a 4677). It is also possible that someone over the years combined the 4615-4 steam engine with the 3171-2 series red cars out of operational convenience. It being the first year for the A. C. Gilbert Co. selling American Flyer, the trains were derived from Coleman AFMCo. tooling. You may get some additional thoughts from others here, too.

The light bulbs are pretty standard stuff similar to postwar. Suppliers such as Henning's and Portlines Hobbies are good sources of new replacements.

Hope this helps. Enjoy!

Bob

Steamer posted:

love the Ives cars! What are Saratoga cars? Passenger cars? and that tender looks beautiful.

 

Saratoga cars are Ives 129 passenger cars. They use the same frames and trucks as the 124, 125 freight and 127 stock cars. These are 9", Pre-Lionel, lithographed Ives cars.

I really like the detail of the litho.

The roofs are two piece, so they are sometimes painted two-tone.

George

beachhead2 posted:

George S posted:

I bid on the live auction too.  Here are a few cars I won.

George, who made those litho road-name cars?  And those are O, right?

Yes, these are Ives 125 9" O gauge, pre-Lionel, lithographed freight cars. They can get a little pricey and are hard to find in good condition. I just lost an ebay auction for a C7 Frisco car that went for $405. That's really high for that car but condition can really drive the price. Another one went for $260 back in April. 

Ives made nine road names of the 124 and 125 cars and there are countless variations. Especially in the 1929 - 1930 timeframe, Ives started substituting any parts they could get to complete cars, so you will find original cars with two different doors and odd color roofs. I have five of the nine roadnames so far, and am looking for one of each.  Then, I will work on trading up for better condition models. The UP car is in rough shape, but the litho is still bright and legible. 

George

sure can get $$..been watching those the last few months. I haven't even seen rough ones.