Weekend tinplate photos/videos 7/13/17!!

Find of the week, two french HORNBY locos in battered condition. I think i will keep them as i didn't have those color variations. They have the same standard motor with auto reverse and both dates from the 1935-40 period.

And now a question, i have founded a set of freight cars but i don't know exactly who has made them. They are germans, similar to the last BING production, couplers bumpers and wheels are Bing but there is no manufacturer indication.

As you know Bing, due to their jewish origins, has to stop their manufacture and sold it to german manufacturers around 1932-33. Maybe those cars dates from the post Bing products and not yet marked. What locomotive was intended to match with them, i don't know.

Any suggestion would be appreciated .......

Have a great tinplate weekend,   Daniel

Daniel those "battered"  engines look pretty good!

and Joe's layout is a thing of beauty.

Last week a seller had a tinplate station for sale described as an LR (Le Rapide or Louis Roussy) station. To me it looked like a CR (Charles Rossignol) station since LR made as far as I know no litho stations. I bought it and found in the CR book it is one of the rarest CR stations.

I assume above is the track side and under the street side.

All men and one with a gun, is there a story?

The lamppost is high and striking; the lamp is dummy and cannot be lit.

In the latest version of my e-book on tinplate accessories this station is now also included; the book is free to download here: http://sncf231e.nl/tin-stuff-from-fred-2/

Regards

Fred

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

 

And now a question, i have founded a set of freight cars but i don't know exactly who has made them. They are germans, similar to the last BING production, couplers bumpers and wheels are Bing but there is no manufacturer indication.

As you know Bing, due to their jewish origins, has to stop their manufacture and sold it to german manufacturers around 1932-33. Maybe those cars dates from the post Bing products and not yet marked. What locomotive was intended to match with them, i don't know.

Any suggestion would be appreciated .......

 

Have a great tinplate weekend,   Daniel

Daniel,

I had a look in my (Dutch) Bing catalogue, which is a a late Bing catalogue (1933/4 I think) and these cars are in this catalogue and the numbers on your cars match with the catalogue numbers. There is however not any trainset pictured with freight cars in this catalogue; only passenger trainsets, so I would not know what locomotive was intended for these. I do not know for sure but assume since these have no markings they were made in the Bing factory after Bub had taken over, which might explain no Bing trademark.

Regards

Fred

Daniel,

I had a look in my (Dutch) Bing catalogue, which is a a late Bing catalogue (1933/4 I think) and these cars are in this catalogue and the numbers on your cars match with the catalogue numbers. There is however not any trainset pictured with freight cars in this catalogue; only passenger trainsets, so I would not know what locomotive was intended for these. I do not know for sure but assume since these have no markings they were made in the Bing factory after Bub had taken over, which might explain no Bing trademark.

Fred,

Many thanks for the illustrations of this catalog, i don't have this one, and your coments. That is exactly what i think, early Bub production without manufacturing specification. I would enjoy finding a loco to match with them, they are rally well made.

Your CR station is really nice and looks great, the man with a gun is certainly a hunter leaving the town to a small country station trying to shoot at some wild animal. hunting was a popular sport in France in those times. Nice find.

Very best,   Daniel

First, let me echo that I've always loved NYCJoe's layout and pictures, the presentation is just wonderful!  Good luck on the move and I won't be surprised if you next layout is just as fabulous!

I finally pulled a 263E Blue comet out of  it's shoebox and put (most) of it back together.  I had to rob a set of thin rim drivers from a 259E and the frame is an MTH Blur frame, but otherwise it is all original, the paint on the boiler is fairly nice.  That said, I would like to run into a decent original Blue frame to put under it!  Also a couple of shots of Gunmetal 249E and 265E, nothing earth shattering, just neat old trains.

sncf231e posted:

 

In the latest version of my e-book on tinplate accessories this station is now also included; the book is free to download here: http://sncf231e.nl/tin-stuff-from-fred-2/

Regards

Fred

Thank you Fred, this is a lot of information. I will print out and use a referance.

Thanks:
Ron

FRENCHTRAINS posted:

Find of the week, two french HORNBY locos in battered condition. I think i will keep them as i didn't have those color variations. They have the same standard motor with auto reverse and both dates from the 1935-40 period.

And now a question, i have founded a set of freight cars but i don't know exactly who has made them. They are germans, similar to the last BING production, couplers bumpers and wheels are Bing but there is no manufacturer indication.

As you know Bing, due to their jewish origins, has to stop their manufacture and sold it to german manufacturers around 1932-33. Maybe those cars dates from the post Bing products and not yet marked. What locomotive was intended to match with them, i don't know.

Any suggestion would be appreciated .......

Have a great tinplate weekend,   Daniel

My guess is that they are KBN--Karl Bub.  Bub got a lot of the Bing stampings. Kraus Fandor

ended up with the beautiful Mitropa bogie passenger car stampings.  I have one of the blue ones and the Kraus label is intact.

Lew Schneider

And now for something really different.  The items are lithographed and are O scale.

But the Japanese commuter trains are floor toys, and the Melbourne tram runs on O gauge track but can't go around curves.  The clockwork mechanism is designed to only move straight in one direction. 

But, they are beautiful to behold. 

So let's go to Tokyo's Ueno station and then watch the Aussie on the main line.

American Flyer 1930 New Potomac

Catalog

...and the set itself

The arched hoods on either end of the locomotive are early die cast and are often found completely crumbled. The text of the catalog indicates this set was superior to the older version in terms of speed.  In fact, the heavy diecast makes the engine top heavy and more likely to tip over on the curves.

Thanks for the kind words Chris. Here are a few more shots of the layout.

Chris Lonero posted:

This week instead of any photos from my layout I'm going to post some of a good friend of mine who announced that himself and his wife Chris are moving to PA. "NJCJOE"and Chris are down to earth good folks that we have shared many laughs "and some cocktails" at York and at Trainstock at the NJHR's club. Good luck you two! Here are some shots of his awesome soon to be former layout that was featured in OGR in December 2010.    Now let's see your tinplate! 

Great shots, Chris! I never get tired of looking at pictures of Joe's layout--I see something new each time. Thanks to Joe, I now own a "Toy Trains are Forever" poster like the one in his train room, and it will be framed and on the wall real soon. I had the opportunity to meet and talk with Joe and his wife briefly last fall at York; whatever town they decide to call home will be a better place because they are there.

John 

lewrail posted:

And now for something really different.  The items are lithographed and are O scale.

But the Japanese commuter trains are floor toys, and the Melbourne tram runs on O gauge track but can't go around curves.  The clockwork mechanism is designed to only move straight in one direction. 

But, they are beautiful to behold. 

So let's go to Tokyo's Ueno station and then watch the Aussie on the main line.

the Japanese floor trains look to be Ichiko

Dennis Holler said...."I finally pulled a 263E Blue comet out of  it's shoebox "

I never found anything like that in any of my shoeboxes......that looks great!

Well, what else would you put in a shoe box?

Don't forget....

They all got something in them and it ain't shoes!

hmmm....might hafta hit the shoe department at the next show I get to.....

NJCJOE posted:

Thanks for the kind words Chris. Here are a few more shots of the layout.

Joe, Is it true that Gov. Christie asked you to move because you have soo much railroadiana that your house was weighing down the state? 

Good luck on your move. I know firsthand that moving for any of us with lots of train stuff can be stressful.

Tom 

Front End Friday, repro #7

Hello,

I have made a train again.
From Issmayer there was around 1895 a very nice train for the USA. This is hardly to find in the Orginal and also not my price class. For a while I had bought the Issmayer book by Michael Bowes as a PDF version. In this book are first-class pictures of the train to be found. A print template was then created with lengthy postprocessing.

The bogies are from Bub scrap coachs

The frame with the bogie

The parts like a puzzle

Platform with steps

And the complete coachs

On the Issmayer car ist J.A.J. I have change to A.H.A. for my Name A rne and my Hometown Ha gen

best greetings from Germany

Arne

Arne, Thanks for posting that. I remember seeing some of your other (great) work. I think I am your Number 1 fan in the USA. 

Tom 

Arne , did you ever post any pictures of your bridge once you had completed it ? I do not find any . Could you please post a few ?  Thanks Gary

Gary,

no, the bridge is not finished. I will make the colour soon.

Arne

For those who have not seen Arne's other work before, here is another thread:

https://ogrforum.com/...35#58024223241105735

Tom 

I got 3 trains running

kevin

Thanks Arne I will be very much looking forward to seeing them . I love the towers at the entrance they look like they are from a castle . Gary

MNCW posted

 

Joe, Is it true that Gov. Christie asked you to move because you have soo much railroadiana that your house was weighing down the state? 

Good luck on your move. I know firsthand that moving for any of us with lots of train stuff can be stressful.

Tom 

Now that's funny. 

Jim O'C posted:

lewrail posted:

And now for something really different.  The items are lithographed and are O scale.

But the Japanese commuter trains are floor toys, and the Melbourne tram runs on O gauge track but can't go around curves.  The clockwork mechanism is designed to only move straight in one direction. 

But, they are beautiful to behold. 

So let's go to Tokyo's Ueno station and then watch the Aussie on the main line.

the Japanese floor trains look to be Ichiko

Believe it or not I saw one of these Melbourne trams in a second hand shop yesterday (it helps that I'm in Melbourne!). One truck is fixed and the other pivots but is VERY stiff, so yes I think it would derail before it went around a corner.