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ooooooh, they should have done just polar railroad. or a halloween one.
Wow! To my recollection, this is the first Polar Express VisionLine item 
! It looks awesome...and I am not a Bonafide GG1 fan 
. Now it's Old Rivets and this one...will need to keep working 
FWIW: when I clicked on the link to the Lionel Store, I noticed an HO Polar Express Berkshire that had snow on the cab and tender roofs...that looked cool. That would've been a neat feature for the 20th Anniversary Berkshires.
Wow 😳 - never thought about the “Polar” colors on a GG-1 - that looks awesome - I think it works
For me the GG-1 always had a little bit of a Christmas feel to it - maybe because of all the years in the postwar Lionel catalogs or being from the Northeast and seeing them in the winter in the snow - I like it 👍🏼
Here a bigger picture...
I hope this does well for them, but it still seems like there is a market for a Legacy steamer (beyond #1225) or early diesel for all the scale PolEx freight that has been made in the last decade. This seems redundant with the Bi-Polar of a few years ago.
Not to nitpick, but I wonder if it would like sharper with the words Polar Express spelled out in lieu of the PE logo? I kind of think it would, or maybe do both with the logo in the middle.
I promised myself I had enough Polar Express stuff but that may all be out the window. Curse you Lionel!
Ouch. Guess I'm really 'out of sync' here but that's almost an abomination - a GG1 is a thing of beauty. This is just plain 'Butt Ugly' to me. I'm old now. You guys go ahead and enjoy but someone has to speak up! :-)
@c.sam posted:Ouch. Guess I'm really 'out of sync' here but that's almost an abomination - a GG1 is a thing of beauty. This is just plain 'Butt Ugly' to me. I'm old now. You guys go ahead and enjoy but someone has to speak up! :-)
You know you want one.
It's a magic train. A fantasy GG1 needs NO catenary!
@c.sam posted:Ouch. Guess I'm really 'out of sync' here but that's almost an abomination - a GG1 is a thing of beauty. This is just plain 'Butt Ugly' to me. I'm old now. You guys go ahead and enjoy but someone has to speak up! :-)
I see.
No photo with the department store Santa. No letter to Santa.
And you said the Polar Express GG1 was “Butt Ugly”.
It sounds to me like this is your crucial year.
If I were you, I would think about climbing onboard! 
@c.sam posted:Ouch. Guess I'm really 'out of sync' here but that's almost an abomination - a GG1 is a thing of beauty. This is just plain 'Butt Ugly' to me. I'm old now. You guys go ahead and enjoy but someone has to speak up! :-)
you'r not alone Sam
I had wondered why Lionel hadn't offered one in the catalog. I feel like not having this listed in the catalog at all is an odd choice.
As the owner of 21 GGs including the Williams 25th and the Williams Girls pink, I would sorta feel obligated to buy this......but for the life of me I can't see how you didn't release an Orange G for Halloween.
rat
I'm a fan of the GG1 for sure and regret only having one of the handsome full scale models - the JLC DGLE 5 stripe. I have owned an original 2332 Lionel unit for many years. Would love to have one of the Vision models with the sparking pantographs but $1700 is difficult justify and am afraid I would choke! If anyone can come up with an upgrade kit to add the sparking feature to the older units I'm all in. They certainly are fantastic models and I learned a lot several years ago when Jonathan started his highly informative thread on them some years ago. You new guys should check it out - a veritable encyclopedia of information. Do any of you younger fellas even know what an encyclopedia is?
I don't 'do halloween' either... Feel free to ask me why offline.
I think that the "snow" on the roof is absolutely ridiculous; at the speeds that the Gs traveled at, it would have blown off rather quickly, not even accumulating in the first place.
And, yes, Sam, I, too, agree with you!
@ratpak posted:As the owner of 21 GGs including the Williams 25th and the Williams Girls pink, I would sorta feel obligated to buy this......but for the life of me I can't see how you didn't release an Orange G for Halloween.
rat
You'd think Lionel would be all over a GG1 saying TRANSYLVANIA down the side.
With a Halloween Triplex on order, and being a fan of the monster movie genre, remember UHF stations in the 1970s - they showed all the great monster movies - it is my firm opinion that the BiPolar (MTH riveted version) would be a super-scary engine. I certainly understand the parody of a Transylvania GG1, however. The arcing effect alone should be pretty scary with the room lights dimmed or turned off. Santa is another matter, he requires super-fast trains and only the GG1 would suffice! That's not a slight against the BiPolars, they could hit 75 mph as I recall.
@RamblerDon posted:I had wondered why Lionel hadn't offered one in the catalog. I feel like not having this listed in the catalog at all is an odd choice.
Perhaps they need it to meet the MOQ…….
@c.sam posted:Ouch. Guess I'm really 'out of sync' here but that's almost an abomination - a GG1 is a thing of beauty. This is just plain 'Butt Ugly' to me. I'm old now. You guys go ahead and enjoy but someone has to speak up! :-)
I am not a GG1 fanatic, but, I think this is very well done!
@ratpak posted:As the owner of 21 GGs including the Williams 25th and the Williams Girls pink, I would sorta feel obligated to buy this......but for the life of me I can't see how you didn't release an Orange G for Halloween.
rat
Hat's off to you Rat....I have 13 PW size Lionel/MPC/Williams,like chips,can't have just one
Well, I went for it. This is my first scale GG-1. A fantasy engine of a fantasy engine. I was able to get 10% off signing up for the mailing list and free shipping. Now if you would produce the epic Orange TRANSYLVANIA 5 stripe.
rat
FWIW: I am going to send an e-mail to Lionel requesting they ensure the Polar Express GG1 is made in the correct shade of blue - the darker blue. This is one expensive locomotive - and IMO the darker is nicer and is more in-line with the shade of blue on the passenger cars in the 2004 movie. Better (and less costly) to get the shade correct the first time 
Just for fun..I went back to search for the orange GG-1. It started in 2015.
rat
@ratpak posted:Well, I went for it. This is my first scale GG-1. A fantasy engine of a fantasy engine. I was able to get 10% off signing up for the mailing list and free shipping. Now if you would produce the epic Orange TRANSYLVANIA 5 stripe.
rat
One thing about trains GG1s. It doesn’t matter where they’re going what color scheme. What matters is deciding to get on one. {or more}
@ratpak posted:Well, I went for it. This is my first scale GG-1. A fantasy engine of a fantasy engine. I was able to get 10% off signing up for the mailing list and free shipping. Now if you would produce the epic Orange TRANSYLVANIA 5 stripe.
rat
How did you get the 10% off and free shipping? I didn't see it.
21 GG1. WOW! One of my late club members loved his GG1! So much, that was his license plate.
A couple of POP Ups. It said if you sign up for emails you can get 10% off. It gave me a code. Then it said if you order today get free shipping then another code. When you get to check out it will give you only one promo code box. Don't be fooled. Apply the first code, then the box goes blank , apply the second code.
rat
Then it said if order the Orange 5 stripe...........
@DMASSO posted:21 GG1. WOW! One of my late club members loved his GG1! So much, that was his license plate.
My License plate is RATPCK
rat
@Paul Kallus posted:FWIW: I am going to send an e-mail to Lionel requesting they ensure the Polar Express GG1 is made in the correct shade of blue - the darker blue. This is one expensive locomotive - and IMO the darker is nicer and is more in-line with the shade of blue on the passenger cars in the 2004 movie. Better (and less costly) to get the shade correct the first time
A belts-and-suspenders approach would be ordering through a dealer who accepts no-questions-asked returns. The Acela blue would not be a good match for any of the previous scale stuff except for the recalled RPO. But, that option isn’t available if it’s only available from Lionel.
I'd be very surprised if the gg1 matched the older release polar cars, or even the ones in the 2024 volume 1. Very difficult to match previous runs of anything but black.
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I just went for it. I sure hope this GG1 is as cool and fun as it looks! 
To Lionel's credit, they had made replacement shells for the scale RPO and Reindeer cars with the darker shade of blue.
Regarding the minimum diameter required for the scale GG1, Lionel's catalog states O-72; has anyone tried it on less ~ O-64 or even O-54?
@tom21pa posted:I'd be very surprised if the gg1 matched the older release polar cars, or even the ones in the 2024 volume 1. Very difficult to match previous runs of anything but black.
Tom, to Lionel’s credit, the scale hobo car, the recent scale sleepers, and the replacement shells for the RPOs are dead ringers color wise for the original scale cars. So, they can do it. It’s just a matter of consistency. I ordered the newly redesigned observation car and have my fingers crossed that it turns out like the sleepers did.
@Paul Kallus posted:To Lionel's credit, they had made replacement shells for the scale RPO and Reindeer cars with the darker shade of blue.
Hey Paul, do you have the replacement reindeer car? If so, can you post a picture? I originally held off ordering it because they didn’t make a black roof version and was glad I did after the blue showed up wrong. If corrected replacements are available, I may track one down and paint the roof.
@Rider Sandman posted:Hey Paul, do you have the replacement reindeer car? If so, can you post a picture? I originally held off ordering it because they didn’t make a black roof version and was glad I did after the blue showed up wrong. If corrected replacements are available, I may track one down and paint the roof.
I never seen a replacement shell for the reindeer car only the RPO. I also never heard that they had a program in place to replace the reindeer car shells. I had the RPO car replaced with the correct color.
IMO the reindeer car though not perfect was close enough for me. Paul, I'd also be interested to hear about that.
@MartyE posted:I never seen a replacement shell for the reindeer car only the RPO. I also never heard that they had a program in place to replace the reindeer car shells. I had the RPO car replaced with the correct color.
IMO the reindeer car though not perfect was close enough for me. Paul, I'd also be interested to hear about that.
I had my RPO replaced as well. It took a bit of patience, but I was very happy with the resultant car. They were able to do the repo shells right away since RPOs are made routinely for the catalog.
Would definitely be interested in a correct reindeer car. I was skeptical they would do replacement shells since it will likely be years before they re-run the horse cars to tack the repo shells onto the order.
Roger on replacement Reindeer cars. I am pretty sure Ryan of Lionel made this happen. I haven't put mine on yet...they had told me there's only 4 screws...it's on my list of things to do which is quite long, and nothing is easy. I think these are about a year or maybe older...how time flies. Write to Lionel and specify item # and attaching receipt is always a good practice. I tried like heck to get replacement shells for my Polar Express High Speed set and cars, but I think not enough people wrote to them. Rider: I think these were only made with snow on roof...I would've also liked a black-roofed version.
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@Paul Kallus posted:Roger on replacement Reindeer cars. I am pretty sure Ryan of Lionel made this happen. I haven't put mine on yet...they had told me there's only 4 screws...it's on my list of things to do which is quite long, and nothing is easy. I think these are about a year or maybe older...how time flies. Write to Lionel and specify item # and attaching receipt is always a good practice. I tried like heck to get replacement shells for my Polar Express High Speed set and cars, but I think not enough people wrote to them. Rider: I think these were only made with snow on roof...I would've also liked a black-roofed version.
First time I'm hearing of these.
