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I see these items in blow out ads frequently. 
 
 
Originally Posted by ajzend:
You gotta figure that people are buying them, or they wouldn't keep making them.  We have to realize that this forum is composed of serious modeler/operators and that we DO NOT reflect the general market.
Alan
Originally Posted by Jumijo:

Really dumb licensed products. The Wizard of Oz? NASCAR? Elvis? Those licenses cost serious money, but do they sell enough to be worth it? Do people really buy that crap?

As I was packing to go to the San Jose Great Trains Expo I came face to face with my biggest pet peeve, all the box variations, and the dumb clam shell packaging. For example there are five (and I am sure more) distinct box sizes for the 6464 (92, 94, 9700 series) boxcars. They range from the almost car size box for the Maine Central 6464 to a box that could hold a Alco or small steam locomotive. Make me want to pull out my already thinning hair out trying to maximize the space in the boxes and in my truck. It would seem to me that a standardized box size would be less expensive for the manufacturers as well.

 

Regards,

Randall

Originally Posted by challenger:

THE HIGH PRICES-how can we get children into this hobby wnen we older members are having a hard time affording our hobby-look what a scale boxcar or caboose go for now-tooling on most of the engines produced has to be paid for by now especially f3's.why are they over 100.00 more now-did the price of rice increase that much.forget a scale steam engine-over one grand on a engine that has been produced several times in the last 12 years.


Yep, I can only get maybe a boxcar or a engine on a rare occasion. And when your a teenager who can't get money other than for your birthday/holiday or your allowance. Well model railroading is expensive, and kids like me can't afford much. The command control stuff I got was hard enough to save up for...

Originally Posted by littleevan99:


Yep, I can only get maybe a boxcar or a engine on a rare occasion. And when your a teenager who can't get money other than for your birthday/holiday or your allowance. Well model railroading is expensive, and kids like me can't afford much. The command control stuff I got was hard enough to save up for...

That's what I had to do when I was a teenager back in the late 1960's-early 1970's.  Count my pennies, save up for what I wanted.  I couldn't afford any of the HO brass back then no matter how much I lusted after them.  Plus, by parental edict, some of my Christmas and birthday money went into my savings account. 

 

With the exception of the occasional freight car kit, locomotives were out of the question until I saved up the cash.

 

Even after I got my first job, there were other places for my money to go than all to the hobby shop.  It wasn't until after a few years of working I was able to have what some call "surplus income."

 

Somehow, both my hobby and I survived...

 

Rusty

Eliminate complicated electronics that you cannot repair yourself. Also eliminate centralized service centers and make more repair centers available to the masses. Get rid of the hold on spare parts. Make the spare parts available to the masses. Most of us started in postwar and much of the enjoyment of the hobby is working on engines and performing our own repairs.

Ditch the 'Edison' light bulbs and go 100% LED's...engines, passenger cars, accessories, etc.

 

I'll second the request to ditch proprietary control systems...achieve a standard, as the O2R, HO, N, G folks luxuriate in and can focus on (or 'complain about', as one might) other things...the number of rivets, the diameter of grab iron stock, the accuracy of reporting marks, etc., etc., etc., blah, blah, blah.  You know, all those REALLY important things.

 

Thumbtack coupler uncoupler thingies that dangle below the cars.

 

Pink GG-1's.

 

Just a few that come to mind...

 

KD

 

 

Crew talk, cab chatter, tower comm - especially on steam engines, which didn't have radios in the first place. My all-time pet peeve is the crew talk on TMCC engines - if you set up the Station Sounds diner so you can do the automatic sequence of announcements and starting the train, the locomotive talks over the top of the passenger announcements.  Just get rid of that idiotic yammer. I would pay a lot of money for a replacement chip for my TMCC Milwaukee Road 4-6-4 that didn't have any cab chatter on it so I could run the  Station Sounds sequence. 

Heavy Sigh;

 

To get rid of?

Tower comm / crew chatter on by default, Let those that want it turn it on with a button combo/sequence on the controller. Leave it in the engine, just turned off.

Traction Tires ON small engines only.

Plastic drive parts are stupid;

Make a few engines with a clutch drive and minimal electronics - for kids, MARK THEM as such. Leave the Scale and better detailed stuff as it is.

 

Some points about above complaints;

1) High Prices; Umm when an engine was $50 that was my dads monthly income, nothing new here, kids never could afford trains.

2) Big Wire Tether : Already gone now.

3) Wireless Tether; umm, gotta have something there, your suggestion?

4) Edison Headlight / other light; already in Progress with PS3 engines, needs to expand to lighted cars and other manufacturers.

5) Traction tires, I like them as do others. Pulling a monster consist with my Big Boy is realistic. probably don't need them on a 4-4-0 or switchers tho, I can see that.

6) Wimpy electronics that fail too soon.  Agreed, this can be fixed. I design electronics  for an industrial OEM. Our Products get a 5 year warranty in Industrial applications. That means vibration, dust, temp swings and static electricity like you would not believe. Our products typically exceed 10 years life without issues in 24/7/365 usage. Nothing on a model railroad is that abusive - ever. Spend 5% more on the circuitry and make it last. A TVS on the incoming power connection inside each engine and each Lock-on costs less than a nickle in quantity. And it will stop most of the problems cold. My latest design has 60 of them on the PCB. one on every thing a customer should touch. Every button, pot, jumper, switch, or connection.

  • I was flamed for this one before, but I'll say it again. Get rid of the fast-angle wheel. Replace it with a flat-tread (or better, RP25 contour) with a 1/16" flange. Will work on tubular track, flat top, and (if properly gauged, 2-rail track.) Insulate one side, but reverse the wheels in the trucks for 3-rail insulated rail use.
  • Let's lose the traction tires. They encourage trains too long for the locomotive, are a general pain to change, and gunk up the rails.
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