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falconservice posted:

Atlas makes the GP40-2 and the B23-7/B30-7 diesel locos in N and HO scale, so they would be the ones to make them in O scale.

Andrew

Atlas needs to make a master line GP38-2 and GP40-2! I would buy heavily in those models as well as accurate SD40-2's despite what seems to be lack of orders for Scott's SD40-2's.   SW1500's would be nice too!

I tell you in terms bells and whistles, the Scaletrains.com Tier 4 GE is a stunning locomotive in HO.  Would love to see that level of detail in  an O Scale locomotive!  

 

I was unaware that Sunset was having a problems with a lack of orders on their SD40-2's...I have ordered two myself for ATSF.  I would have ordered four additional for BN and SF Kodachrome, but with plastic diesels hitting seven and a half hundred dollars now, it just isn't in my budget.  One thing though...when Scott announces a product, it isn't a 7-10 year production wait before it's on it's way to the dealers.  

Mike DeBerg posted:
falconservice posted:

Atlas makes the GP40-2 and the B23-7/B30-7 diesel locos in N and HO scale, so they would be the ones to make them in O scale.

Andrew

Atlas needs to make a master line GP38-2 and GP40-2! I would buy heavily in those models as well as accurate SD40-2's despite what seems to be lack of orders for Scott's SD40-2's.   SW1500's would be nice too!

I tell you in terms bells and whistles, the Scaletrains.com Tier 4 GE is a stunning locomotive in HO.  Would love to see that level of detail in  an O Scale locomotive!  

 

To be honest, I'm still amazed they don't make these 'core' EMD locos, and have been hoping they'll do them for ages now. But - I hope they do them as proper 2-rail models, not 3-rail-derived "Trainman" hybrids - and in plain old 12v DC too, as well as the all-whistles-&-bells Gold DCC versions.

Not surprised if there's a lack of orders for brass locos at the moment; there's been a recession on - maybe it's finally hit those who can afford such exotica..??

SundayShunter posted:
Mike DeBerg posted:
falconservice posted:

Atlas makes the GP40-2 and the B23-7/B30-7 diesel locos in N and HO scale, so they would be the ones to make them in O scale.

Andrew

Atlas needs to make a master line GP38-2 and GP40-2! I would buy heavily in those models as well as accurate SD40-2's despite what seems to be lack of orders for Scott's SD40-2's.   SW1500's would be nice too!

I tell you in terms bells and whistles, the Scaletrains.com Tier 4 GE is a stunning locomotive in HO.  Would love to see that level of detail in  an O Scale locomotive!  

 

To be honest, I'm still amazed they don't make these 'core' EMD locos, and have been hoping they'll do them for ages now. But - I hope they do them as proper 2-rail models, not 3-rail-derived "Trainman" hybrids - and in plain old 12v DC too, as well as the all-whistles-&-bells Gold DCC versions.

Not surprised if there's a lack of orders for brass locos at the moment; there's been a recession on - maybe it's finally hit those who can afford such exotica..??

I'm not a modern era modeler but it's sad to hear that there is a lack of orders for the SD40-2.  This locomotive and the GP38-2 are certainly "core" locomotives that should be at the top of the popularity list for modelers as they were for the railroads.

And I would not doubt that the cycle of economics has affected the purchase of our beloved toys.    Times are tough and trains are getting better but more expensive. 

Let's hope there are enough sales to carry the offering through though.  It would be sad to see a key locomotive like this die on the vine.

I would modify this title to "What locomotives would you like to see made "that a minimum of 50? people will actually buy"?" I would also separate steam and diesel. Since the basic design of diesels used on many railroads is standardized, there is a better chance of achieving the necessary volume for a diesel run than for a steam run. For steam, and based strictly on achieving a required minimum volume, you should probably consider, FIRST, the most popular roads that are modeled. I think that would be the PRR and NYC in the east, and UP and SP in the west. A lot of us also like the "niche" railroads, like N&W, NKP, B&O, NP, CNR, CPR, etc. A diesel offering could probably address these wants, while it would be more difficult for a steam model to do so, as many steam designs for these roads were customized to that RR. (Apologies to the Van Sweringen (sp?) guys, but the steam dome was mounted ahead of the sand dome on NKP!)

Bottom line is that someone who raises the flag for an Ann Arbor Pacific is a futile effort, in my opinion. (Heck, I am not even sure they had any Pacifics!)

I would like to see an ATLAS Republic Steel SW in straight DC so I don't have to throw out all the bells and whistles electronic boards and make my own simple one for changing the LED lights. Not much I'm asking but can't see it happening so I'm converting my own.  Problem solved. DC forever!

Why did I ever post on this thread?....... Because I wanted a break from the modelling bench and I'm drinking a cup of strong black coffee as well.

Roo.

Hudson 5432:  Your thesis of diesels being easier to produce en masse is very plausible.  But.....we have been treated to an array of "niche" O Scale steam locomotives over the past 20 years, such as CNW R1 4-6-0, CN/CP/GTW 4-8-4's, Burlington 2-10-4's and the soon to arrive Sunset O1a 2-8-2's, etc, etc.  So, really, many steam locomotives are potentially possible. But, agreed, not all. They do have to have some degree of popularity. And, Lord knows, I'm up to my gills in Big Boys, NYC Hudsons, SP 0-6-0's, etc.  

Mark S. I agree completely. Perhaps there are more modelers of railroads other than what I identified, and those folks obviously vote with their wallets the same as we who model the larger and/or more popular roads. I am not sure that a production run of 50 is the minimum, but if we are going to influence the decision makers, we have to start somewhere! As for NYC and Hudsons, I continue to believe that "you can't have too many", especially with all of the variations!

I did neglect to mention the modern carriers such as BNSF, CSX, Conrail, etc etc and of course those would be "diesel guys", so should be at least a little easier to satisfy.

WITZ 41 posted:
mobyduck posted:

Union Pacific 2-10-2 with young's Valve gear, plow pilot, etc.  engine #5041 would be great!

+1

TTTs had so many modifications it might be hard to nail one down but they were all over the UP. I'd be in for a late version '48-'54.

I'll buy several of any version.  Would love to have more UP 2-10-2s in my collection.

UP had a ton of these and the last model made was an old USH version...time for something new!

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Basic minimum runs for 3rd Rail product is roughly the following for locomotives:

Brass:  100 units, but sometimes 75 units will be a go.

Plastic:  750 units with a minimum run of 20 units with road specific details for individual paint schemes.  The E8/E9 currently in production has around 30 paint schemes.

Obviously the more orders the better. 

My pipe dream locomotive?

PRR K2sa.  It was the second largest fleet of Pacifics on the PRR and has not been been done in any scale recently if ever as near as I can tell.  The K5 doesn't interest me as much as there were only 2.  Just my opinion.

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WITZ 41 posted:
mobyduck posted:

Union Pacific 2-10-2 with young's Valve gear, plow pilot, etc.  engine #5041 would be great!

+1

TTTs had so many modifications it might be hard to nail one down but they were all over the UP. I'd be in for a late version '48-'54.

The 5041 has all of the late changes.  She was last used as a helper on westbounds out of Omaha.  She was to to saved for fan trips but upon a boiler inspection a crack was found and the engine was sent to scrap.  The 5511 was at Green River ready to be towed to scrap when the U P  decided to keep a 2-10-2.

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